JDawg, I suspect you don't really know what an ad hom is. Twice now you've invoked it incorrectly. I should never have given it to you. An ad hom is not any old generalized slur or criticism. An ad hom is a particular attack on the opponent's value specifically to devalue the merit of their argument by making it based on their personal value. That's not the same thing is simply complaining or even insulting someone. "Don't listen to him; he's an idiot." That is an ad hom. You and I both know that this forum is full of people with crazy ideas. Saying the forum is full of crazies is not an ad hom. The reason I personally object to ad hom is because even the least capable of members should be able to voice their argument and have it dealt with on its own merits. While I may not like an, an opponent, and may even think they're kind of loony, I try hard not to let that affect my argument in giving it the respect it deserves. So their argument is judged on its merit, regardless of what I think of them. Banning ad homs is a way to allow people who dislike each other to still exchange intelligent discussion. It is unrealistic to expect that members of the forum will actually get to like each other, but this would go a long way. I'lll use you as a counter example. You are fond of responding directly to opponents by calling them idiots and trolls as an integral part of your refutation. Those are ad homs. Calling them an idiot while refuting their arguments is a direct and immediate attempt to make the merit of their argument based on their personal merit. This weakens you - each time you resort to an ad hom, it sends a message that you have no stronger argument in your arsenal. Now, use it right or don't use it at all. :bugeye: Jeez.