History: Bush Was a Great President

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  7. Rick Valued Senior Member

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    Bush was a great president in the sense that he has the courage to do whats right for states from a longer perspective. Too bad there are so many L.johnsons around to say "omg omg , we need to pull out..." i mean come on...

    blah whtvr...

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  8. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I don't see what those three things have in common.
     
  9. NDS NDS Registered Senior Member

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    If the Iraq war succeeds, it will bode well for Bush and not too well for democrats. That is why democrats fear success in Iraq to their cores.
     
  10. zanket Human Valued Senior Member

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    They don't have that fear, since success in Iraq is already clearly impossible under Bush. What they really fear is the wrath of their constituency if much more money & lives are wasted in Iraq.
     
  11. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    It isn't required that Bush be remembered as having been Great.

    It is sufficient that Bush already has been useful.

    The horse has left the barn. Sorry to disappoint so many here.

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  12. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Karl?
     
  13. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. He's been useful, too.
     
  14. countezero Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, I have read the Communist Manifesto. I studied it even. My point in dredging up the origin of the word Nazi was to refute a claim that Marxism and Nazism are mutually exclusive. Clearly, they are not, as the Nazis grafted a form of socialism onto their beliefs. That's not exclusivity. Oil and water are mutually exclusive. In other words, in order to be mutually exclusive two things have to be almost diametrically opposed (think theists and atheists). That's clearly not the case with Nazism and Marxism, as the two share some beliefs and work toward some of the same goals.
     
  15. sandy Banned Banned

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    Most liberals hate God, Bush, and America.
     
  16. Jeremyhfht Registered Senior Member

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    not everyone that opposes bush is a liberal. In fact, a large number of liberals are Christians and devote faithful worshipers of God. Technically, the majority are.

    Sandy, Bush failed so far because he has done more than look beyond domestic policies. He's utterly ignored them altogether. Bush has failed in every conceivable way to listen to what the majority says. In so harsh a fashion, he is a fascist more than a democratic president.

    Your little post here does not prove anything, it only proves you're ignorant to the obvious. While I do support finishing the war so it doesn't become another Vietnam, I do not support such blatant disregard for the domestic policy and majority votes.
     
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    "...a large number of liberals are Christians and devote faithful worshipers of God. Technically, the majority are."

    I disagree. Most liberals support killing babies. (Abortion.) Most of them support sodomy. (Homosexuality.) Most hate President Bush. (The Bible teaches to honor and pray for your leaders.) Most hate America. (They want us to lose Iraq.) Most hate/don't know God. (They are godless secularists.) Liberalism is the religion of the godless.
     
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    No, they support freedom of choice. Which is what the bible advocates to begin with.

    Furthermore, homosexuality is not directly shunned by the bible. In areas where it indirectly shunned, similar to mentions of witchcraft/sorcery/witches, they've been proven to be mistranslated. You can google for evidence.

    No, they do not hate the man. They dislike (hate is too strong a word) what he stands for. The bible teaches you to honor your parents, not your leaders. For you should honor god, the true leader. Not man.

    Lose to iraq? No, they want iraq to start up it's own defenses. So far Iraq has proved so feeble that it's been struggling to do that. The Democrats wish to enforce a time limit upon Iraq. This is not losing, this is pulling out after we've "won".

    I'll said it again: Gross bigoted ignorance. You need merely google for statistics showing the majority of democrats to be religious. They are a far cry from godless.

    Instead, however, they support separation of church and state and majority rule. Conservatives a bit less so on both points. Perhaps that is what confused you, the fact they want freedoms as opposed to restrictions.
     
  22. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    I posted on another thread about how President Bush will be remembered as one of the great presidents. People laughed at me and called me stupid. Someone refuted their comments better than I could:

    Remember 9/11 when President Bush said "Al-Qaeda's behind this. We know it, and we're going to find them wherever they are, and we're going to root them out."

    Long after we're all gone historians will rank Bush in with the greatest presidents who had broad visions for America. He'll be remembered as one who looked beyond our shores and didn't just restrict himself to domestic policy.

    Afer 911 he could have said "You know, our intelligence says this and that, but this is just the way of the world. We've just got to deal with it," like some democrats are saying. Even some democrat presidential candidates say, "Well, we gotta deal with this." Columnist Rosa Brooks of the LA Times says you gotta learn to live with it.

    President Bush said "No, we're not going to put up with this; we're not going to put up with 3,000 innocent Americans being slaughtered by terrorists, wherever they are. We're going to find them wherever they are. We're going to root them out. We are going to make an attempt to turn down the temperature that is the boiling cauldron of all this hate in the Middle East." Iraq was the place chosen to make this change. (Saddam Hussein was boasting about weapons of mass destruction, bragging about how he had them. Every intelligence agency in the world knew he had them.)

    The president said it was going to be hard; it could take a long time, maybe generations. But everything about it is admirable.

    There are two people in the world that are serious about doing something about it: John Howard in Australia and George W. Bush and their military commanders. They're pressing on even when people don't take the time to fully understand what's going on. When it works, it's going to be one of the most redefining and important periods in American history.

    We're not going to just sit here and accept defeat. We defend ourselves, our allies, the way we seek freedom and prosperity for as many people around the world who are willing to work for it and want it.

    Bush is trying to preserve the United States as it has been known, not leave it a random victim of terrorist attacks. People are against him but that hasn't stopped him. This is a serious undertaking. It is valorous, and in time, it will be so recorded as American history. Amen.



    i'm sorry but i feel compelled to ask are you on any mind altering drugs honestly
     
  23. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    having faith is good and all but there is a point where reality most be taken into account he is guilty of perjury(by this i mean its full normal meaning of the violation of an oath not lying under oath) I mean he ignored the oath to defend the constition. you don't defend something by destroying it
     

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