Hinduism vs science...

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  1. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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  3. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Which Hindu scientists are dismissing those theories?
     
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    Removed because I want to stay.

    I'll get back to this topic later.
     
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    Removed because I want to stay.
     
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    "G Nageshwar Rao, vice chancellor of Andhra University, also said a demon king from the Hindu religious epic, Ramayana, had 24 types of aircraft and a network of landing strips in modern day Sri Lanka." - BBC News

    "Dr KJ Krishnan reportedly said Newton failed to "understand gravitational repulsive forces" and Einstein's theories were "misleading"." -BBC News

    Other interesting topics many "responsible" Hindu's support, all because of their religious texts.

    So, what do you think James?
     
  9. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Why so defensive?
     
  10. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    I have done nothing wrong, yet my threads are getting stopped and I'm getting warned. Do you agree with that?

    Would you not stand up for yourself?
     
  11. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    What does that mean? You're giving up on this thread?
     
  12. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Does it look like I have given up?
     
  13. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Based on those quotes alone, I think Rao is nuts. Krishnan is right about Newton, and I'd need more information to comment on his thoughts on Einstein.

    With reference to the article linked in the opening post, it ought to be quite obvious that ancient Hindus didn't invent stem cell research (they didn't know anything about cells, let alone stem cells). The education minister for the western state of Rajasthan obviously has no clue about human respiration (for starters), and the Prime Minister's reliance on myth to establish the supposed existence of cosmetic surgery in ancient India is just silly.

    What do you think, davewhite?
     
  14. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    This is what happens in history, always. Anyone who talks sense they need to remove. Amazing how many people hate the truth.
     
  15. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Okay. It's just you said you were removing something or other. Let it pass.
     
  16. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    I think I would like some references off you. Short and snappy like my article and quotes.
     
  17. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    You asked me what I thought. Do I need references to express my own opinions, in response to your inquiries?

    Or maybe you disagree with my opinions and you'd like me to quote another source that supports my opinion that, for example, Rajasthan has no clue about human respiration. Is that it? If so, please let me know which of my opinions you find problematic, and why.
     
  18. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    I have no problems with opinions which is free will.

    I think religion should not be mixed with science.
     
  19. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Why did you start a thread titled "Hinduism vs science" then?
     
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  20. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe I may of changed my view, but not so far.
     
  21. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    there are several aspects at play in the debate
    statistical base line of people
    1 billion hindus ? which = a larger % of people with all sorts of mental disorders and extremist ideologies etc...
    its a numbers game
    the larger the % of the total general name group = the larger % of extremist comments that can be seen by observation.

    not much different to the concept of Muslim vs Muslim vs modern intellectual ability and education etc.
    such ideas like this are not new to the hindu people.

    i have read some completely crack-pot ideas from some hindu self anointing people.

    it appears that when you get a more immersive mix of highly conservative backwards culture with modern scientific evolution, you always have easy and frequent occurrences of modern ideologies coming in contact with archaic illogical superstition.

    an easy gauge of the contrast is the gender identity and equal rights for non conformist gender identity & female gender in the indian culture.
    non-binary gender has been a cultural aspect for hundreds of years in indian culture, yet a patriarchal rule along side highly discriminative culture has existed along side it.
    modern indian women will freely be able to speak for hours on this subject.

    additionally a human behavior thing you see among most people, cultures & religion is
    the claiming or aligning with factual material aspects that support their mystical or superstitious thinking.
    this gives the human animal a sense of feeling of security of mental thought.
    this mental security is critical to intellectual advancement.
    its like trying to have no accidents with modes of transport, like bikes, cars, skate-boards... walking... anything
    the statistical chance of variant actions is an absolute occurrence of the nature of the whole aspect...
    medieval archaic cults & beliefs seeking to own modern scientific discovery's to try and solidify their sense of mental security of belief in a modern ever changing world and environment.
     
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    As in this example agreed, but what about the facts that came from their religion?

    I agree.
     
  23. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    remember that concepts like "facts from their religion" are not allowed to be argued from the outside.
    only insular discourse of 'the nature of story' ~ to the 'belief of the message'.

    the test is fairly easy yet almost pointless in such situations.

    you may simply pull out a core aspect of their belief & lay claim that it is false, a lie & misleading.

    such zealotism is wholly attached to the Ego.
    fatally some might suggest.

    pop-science theme copying where the nature of the scientific theory is not laid out and noted specifically is simply con-artist salesminship.

    why waist your intelligence on such nonsense.
    its like dissecting reality TV social dramas into moral debates & calling it psychology.
     
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