Hey Athiests: How About Some Objectivity?

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  1. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    I'm not. That's why I prefer the scientific method.
     
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  3. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    that hasn't produced a right answer.
     
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  5. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    Depends, what's the question?
     
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  7. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    does god exist? would have to be first i think. followed by, what is god?
     
  8. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    You would have to reverse those. You can't ask if something exists until you know what you're looking for?

    The question, "Do crimples exist?" means nothing if you don't first define what a crimple is.
     
  9. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    hm. i know god exists, but i can't define god. i can describe it somewhat, based on our interactions, but i can't define it.
     
  10. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Why can't it be all in your head?
     
  11. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    Do aliens from another planet or galaxy exist? There is no proof for this, yet many of the athiest have faith in this. Atheism will discusss the basis for the aliens, with faith in the mental analysis of probability. But there is still no smoking gun to get beyond the faith. Is this a religion in the sense of faith in something not seen and not proven?

    Ancient mythology has their own aliens from between cosmic planes. But since their view of the universe was different, they defined their aliens differently. Are modern aliens just an example of modern mythology with as much reality as Zeus and Hercules? I have read atheist accounts of aliens building the pyramids. But one needs to have faith.

    The parts of the brain being used by religion as well as alien mythology are the same, since both lack direct sensory reinforcement. This should be the way to scientifically classify both as religion or not. Instead atheism will use a subjective philosophy standard to stack the deck. I don't fall for this trick by the irrational atheists in rational clothing.
     
  12. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    The idea that there are most likely aliens on other planets is not a faith position. It's based on the vast number of stars that exist, and by extrapolation the vast numbers of planets that could harbor life.

    The scientific standard is not "direct sensory reinforcement". Science can accept evidence that is indirect, such as evidence gathered through instruments like thermometers and scanning electron microscopes.
     
  13. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    I remain agnostic in regards to ET.
     
  14. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    By my definition, God is the universe. I know the universe exists.

    However, as to other people's definitions...
     
  15. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    my head's not that big.
     
  16. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Our minds are infinite because they are virtual.
     
  17. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    even virtually, it's not that big.
     
  18. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    You haven't unlocked it yet.
     
  19. CptBork Robbing the Shalebridge Cradle Valued Senior Member

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    According to modern cosmological principles, the universe is believed to be infinite in size and has an infinite number of galaxies, stars and planets, i.e. there is no evidence the universe has a "centre" or any sort of preferred reference frame. So based on those principles, it would be supernatural for there not to be infinitely many extra-terrestrial lifeforms out there somewhere.
     
  20. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    Note: this thread should be moved to SFOG.
     
  21. Wisdom_Seeker Speaker of my truth Valued Senior Member

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    Why atheists feel so strongly against the events on the NT? Even the miracles and supernatural stuff... Cant atheists enjoy a little poetry? You dont hear many people arguing against Rabindranath Tagore, or Jack Johnson; it is usefull to argue against prose, but it is absolutely useless to argue against poetry.
     
  22. Wisdom_Seeker Speaker of my truth Valued Senior Member

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    Poetry is not meant to be believed or argued against; poetry is a creative manifestation of human beings, and it is meant to be enjoyed, drinked. Thats why Jesus said "eat me, drink me", he never said "believe me".
     
  23. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    http://ncse.com/news/2009/04/setback-science-education-texas-004710
     

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