Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by Norsefire, Sep 27, 2008.
I can't believe he is serious but there are people who would follow it.
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I like the ideology, I understand it would probably never work in practice, instead of mocking it with "i cant believe" 's why don't you bother to actually defeat the idea with logic and rational argument.
I'll give it some thought but Norsefire doesn't come off as someone who would give a shit. I like Norsefire, don't get me wrong. He reminds me of me in some ways. Take a topic, throw a wrench into it and see what comes out the other end. I like outside-the-box thinking but you have to be careful of where the line in the sand is. I think he's a young guy/gal just trying to stimulate people into seeing something different. I play that game too, so I feel guilty trying to prove him wrong because I can see what he's doing. I like to see the eventual outcome myself so I generally stay out of Norsefire posts except for the odd snippet or two. No disrespect intended.
Anyway, can you work out a religion that includes golf. Heading out to play a round right now.
Nice idea, but that's not religion in my opinion. It's just a way of life, a philosophy.
Add some eugenics in there and when you rise to power you've got a good holocaust brewing.
Eugenics is not always as bad or extreme as hitler made it seem.
M*W: Christians are to blame for the Holocaust.
No, the Jews are because they just had to be inferior.
How so? Hitler was an atheist.
Yes, yes, he made mention of the "Almighty Creator" and all of that, but he didn't actually believe in it, he just saw its value as a tool.
To support this conclusion, this:
He was obviously only interested in it as a tool
Interesting, so by your philosophy if I'm more powerful or intelligent than you (an obvious give in) then you would serve me, and if the weak are not to be pitied ,once I tire of your lack of significance then I could merely dispose of you because you serve very little purpose to the common superiority of humanity. That works for me, the only good fool is a dead fool. You should be a politician you can speak out of both sides of your face pretty well.
M*W: What makes you think the Jews were inferior!
You'll need to provide some evidence of that before I'll adopt your "religion".
Doesn't seem to be true, just as a matter of observed fact.
Everybody makes their own moral decisions.
I'd say is is empowering for the weak and foolish, at the very least.
Clearly, there are plenty of natural forces far more powerful than anything humans can do.
By humans? So, this is a self-importance club then, is it?
"Come before" in what way?
But they don't, as a matter of observed fact.
But not the will of the weak and pathetic, apparently.
Now you're contradicting yourself.
Don't know what this means.
Are you going to enforce that? How?
Who sets the goal? You enforces loyalty? Who does the mind meld?
Sacrifices of whom? By whom?
But not the weak and stupid in humanity?
What is this "humanity" you speak of?
So, he flops out of your "religion" then, and is no longer worthy of moral consideration of others.
He should be sacrificed in the name of the human will, by tenet 16 of your scheme.
Congratulations, you re-discovered Nazism.
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