Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life -

Discussion in 'Comparative Religion' started by firefighter1, Dec 15, 2013.

  1. firefighter1 Registered Member

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    all right for what you are waiting for ? why don't you define what is Conscious on the medical language or scientific basics ? explain it now.

    and the first step is to know the difference between a living body and a dead body. What is the difference?

    and then next Question is Why a dead child born does not grow, does not change body? The body is a lump of matter. Analyze the body. Where is life?

    explain about these points which i have written upside ^. go ahead and do it now. ( and don't give me anytype of link because that is not an argument and i didn't gave any link in my argument )
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    Special Note :- and if you are not able to define what is conscious on the basics of medical language or scientific basics then i will say only two words ** Fools Paradise.**
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    that is all.
     
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  3. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    Is there something you want to say? Why are you shouting? Is there something wrong with you?
     
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  5. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Consciousness is what the brain does. It regulates the body and generates thoughts. We call having thoughts consciousness. The difference between a living body and a dead one is that a living body functions to prevent it's own destruction.
     
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  7. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    One is animated the other is not.
     
  8. Photizo Ambassador/Envoy Valued Senior Member

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    Thank you. As Jesus said, "let the dead bury their own dead."
     
  9. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    Why? You never took science in school? You can't Google? Spidergoat's answer was designed to match the level of the question: it's what brains do. Since you don't have any science skills, a medical definition would do you no good. Evidently you are not even interested in the answer, or you would have looked it up in the . . . 9 months? . . . since you opened this thread. During that time, millions of children around the world have learned the answer you evidently refuse to accept.

    There is no difference in the alive/dead state of a monocyte, plant, or metazoan. There is no metabolism in the cell(s). There are many other ways to describe the crash of the human body towards death. Thus we have the anomaly of the human "vegetative state" in which all of the organs are functioning well enough to maintain general metabolic processes, however some portion of the brain is physically or functionally dead. Since consciousness requires the synapses of specific nerve groups, consciousness is lost when those loops stop oscillating. Thus the human person can be alive and unconscious, as happens during sleep, epileptic seizure, head injury, etc., or coma.


    That's a pretty stupid question. Evidently you are playing games here.

    The metazoan "body" is not properly called a lump of matter, since it evolved an adaptation on primitive monocytes, causing cells to cluster, specialize, and organize. As any normal child knows, the human body is an integration of systems of organs, tissues and cells. What they learn later, either out of independent research due to the curiosity you lack, or as the result of being directed to the topic by taking higher level biology you are not prepared to take, those cells organize because the communicate though a process called signaling. Thus in any metazoan the death of the organism can be defined as a general loss of intercellular signaling. But in theory you could learn this, but not in the land of all play an no work.

    Indeed you come across as a person who has little interest in the facts readily available to answer your questions.

    In Pinocchio it was "the land of all play and no work" which seems to be where you are posting from. Since some of the posters here at least worked hard enough to learn the fundamentals of biology, you should fully expect argument against your refusal to learn it for yourself.

    Incorrect. Learning is only the beginning. There is a very long road ahead of you, once you decide to get up on your own two feet and start walking.
     
  10. firefighter1 Registered Member

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    you all idiots of medical science don't accept soul because there is missing link and you are not even able to explain what is conscious ? and difference between dead man and living man ?
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    if there is a missing link? Then I kick on your face.
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    You're missing this kick. Now learn it. Nonsense. Here is the missing point.

    The first step is to know the difference between a living body and a dead body. What is the difference?

    The difference is that when someone dies, the spirit soul, or the living force, leaves the body. And therefore the body is called “dead.” So, there are two things: one, this body; and the other, the living force within the body. We speak of the living force within the body.

    One must first understand that he is a soul, or something other than his body.

    For example, as a child grows, he becomes a boy, the boy becomes a young man, the young man becomes an adult, and the adult becomes an old man. Throughout all this time, although his body is changing from a child to an old man, he still feels himself to be the same person, with the same identity. Just see: the body is changing, but the occupier of the body, the soul, is remaining the same. So we should logically conclude that when our present body dies, we get another body. This is called transmigration of the soul.

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    According to the Vedas, the measurement of the soul within the body is one ten-thousandth part of the tip of a hair. This is very small; in fact, it is atomic. Yet because of that atomic spiritual energy, my body is working. Is it so difficult to understand? Suppose a man thinks himself very stout and strong. Why is he stout and strong? Only because within his body is a small spiritual spark. But as soon as the spiritual spark is gone, his body dies, and his strength and vigor become void. If scientists say that matter is the cause and origin of life, then let them bring just one dead man back to life by injecting him with chemicals. But this they cannot do.
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    If you inject just one grain of deadly poison into someone, he immediately dies. No one can see the poison or how it acts. But the poison is acting nevertheless. In the same way, the Vedas say that because the minute particle called the soul is within the body, the whole body is working nicely. If I pinch myself, I immediately feel it, because I am conscious all over my skin. But as soon as the soul is absent, which is the case when my body dies, you can take this same skin and cut it and chop it, and no one will protest.
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    Why is this simple thing so hard to understand? ls this not detecting spirit?

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    All of you medical students ( or Scientists ). You have got so much advanced laboratories, advanced knowledge. and you do now know what is the difference between a living body and a dead body. What is the difference? even you are defying the authority of God. You have become so great. And you cannot prove that life is coming out of matter.
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    That you are leaving aside for future. And I have to believe such a rascal? Do you think it is nice? You are talking all nonsense, and I have to believe you?
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    All these scientists, they discover so many things. Why they did not discover something that he would not die? He would not become old? Where is that discovery? They will say: "Yes, in future." One man is kicking on your face, and you are saying: "Yes, in future, when I shall become strong, I shall kick him." But you are, my dear sir, being kicked now. What you are doing now? "Yes, I'm getting strength by your kicking."

    so what is use of your medical science if you cannot even define what is difference between living man and dead man ?
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    and then next Question is Why a dead child born does not grow, does not change body? The body is a lump of matter. Analyze the body. Where is life?

    This is the process. They cannot understand that because there is soul within the child, therefore child is becoming boy. As soon as there is no soul, the child does not become a boy. This simple philosophy they cannot understand, so what is their position? Now, this car is standing because there is no driver. Anyone can understand. Stand still. It will remain there for thousands of years unless a driver comes. Simple reason. But they are so rascal, they will not understand. So what is the use of talking with them? Simply waste of time.
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    Now learn it. Nonsense. Here is the missing point.
     
  11. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Doctor come quickly!
    This guy has a severe and possibly fatal rationality deficiency.
    Is there any cure?
     
  12. zgmc Registered Senior Member

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    That has to be the post of the year. Complete with face kicking even.
     
  13. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    I didn't mean to suggest we know everything. There is something extremely odd about consciousness. Is it a soul? That's one hypothesis, but there is at least one problem with the epistemology. We don't know what a soul is either. Where would you look for it? What would the evidence be? Isn't it just removing yourself from the problem of consciousness one step? Are we replacing one thing we don't know about with another thing we don't know about?
     
  14. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    The apparent continuity between youth and adult is just a thought. A memory. If you lose your short term memory, there is no such perception. In fact, the idea that you are you, is merely an idea. There are no actual boundaries between that which we call self and that which we call other. It's all the collective result of interactions between particles.

    A prophet said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit,
    it is a wonder. But if spirit came into being because of the
    body, it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this
    great wealth has made its home in this poverty."

    In this sense, maybe I could believe the concept of a soul has some merit. But it must be an abstract thing, the passive result of a material world, not the driver of it.
     
  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    We are all but star dust, and unto star dust we shalt return:
    versus 25 P 3 paddoboy:
     
  16. river Valued Senior Member

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    The star dust is full of life energy
     
  17. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    :shrug: Doesn't change the fact we all came from star dust...
    Abiogenesis, Evolution and Chemistry is what it took.
     
  18. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Nope.
     
  19. river Valued Senior Member

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    Yes
     
  20. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Evidence?
     
  21. river Valued Senior Member

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    Arctic worms
     
  22. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Reported for trolling.
     
  23. river Valued Senior Member

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    Reported for absoluteness of thinking upon any ology , and therefore restricting the depth of understanding
     

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