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  1. firefighter1 Registered Member

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    Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life, philosophical/religious facts, theories etc.
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    Practical Explanation ( For Example ) :- `1st of all can you tell me every single seconds detail from that time when you born ?? ( i need every seconds detail ?? that what- what you have thought and done on every single second )

    can you tell me every single detail of your `1 cheapest Minute Or your whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ??

    if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ?

    that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him.
    there is also next life. and i already proved you that no scientist, no politician, no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand this Truth. cuz they are imagining. and you cannot imagine what is god, who is god, what is after life etc.
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    for example :Your father existed before your birth. you cannot say that before your birth your father don,t exists.

    So you have to ask from mother, "Who is my father?" And if she says, "This gentleman is your father," then it is all right. It is easy.
    Otherwise, if you makes research, "Who is my father?" go on searching for life; you'll never find your father.

    ( now maybe...maybe you will say that i will search my father from D.N.A, or i will prove it by photo's, or many other thing's which i will get from my mother and prove it that who is my Real father.{ So you have to believe the authority. who is that authority ? she is your mother. you cannot claim of any photo's, D.N.A or many other things without authority ( or ur mother ).

    if you will show D.N.A, photo's, and many other proofs from other women then your mother. then what is use of those proofs ??} )

    same you have to follow real authority. "Whatever You have spoken, I accept it," Then there is no difficulty. And You are accepted by Devala, Narada, Vyasa, and You are speaking Yourself, and later on, all the acaryas have accepted. Then I'll follow.
    I'll have to follow great personalities. The same reason mother says, this gentleman is my father. That's all. Finish business. Where is the necessity of making research? All authorities accept Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. You accept it; then your searching after God is finished.

    Why should you waste your time?
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    all that is you need is to hear from authority ( same like mother ). and i heard this truth from authority " Srila Prabhupada " he is my spiritual master.
    im not talking these all things from my own.
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    in this world no `1 can be Peace full. this is all along Fact.

    cuz we all are suffering in this world 4 Problems which are Disease, Old age, Death, and Birth after Birth.

    tell me are you really happy ?? you can,t be happy if you will ignore these 4 main problem. then still you will be Forced by Nature.
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    if you really want to be happy then follow these 6 Things which are No illicit sex, No gambling, No drugs ( No tea & coffee ), No meat-eating ( No onion & garlic's )

    5th thing is whatever you eat `1st offer it to Supreme Lord Krishna. ( if you know it what is Guru parama-para then offer them food not direct Supreme Lord Krishna )

    and 6th " Main Thing " is you have to Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare ".
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    If your not able to follow these 4 things no illicit sex, no gambling, no drugs, no meat-eating then don,t worry but chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ) is very-very and very important.

    Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare " and be happy.

    if you still don,t believe on me then chant any other name for 5 Min's and chant this holy name for 5 Min's and you will see effect. i promise you it works And chanting at least 16 rounds ( each round of 108 beads ) of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra daily.
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    Here is no Question of Holy Books quotes, Personal Experiences, Faith or Belief. i accept that Sometimes Faith is also Blind. Here is already Practical explanation which already proved that every`1 else in this world is nothing more then Busy Foolish and totally idiot.
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    every `1 is already Blind in this world and if you will follow another Blind then you both will fall in hole. so try to follow that person who have Spiritual Eyes who can Guide you on Actual Right Path. ( my Authority & Guide is my Spiritual Master " Srila Prabhupada " )
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    if you want to see Actual Purpose of human life then see this link : ( www ( dot ) asitis ( dot ) com {Bookmark it })
    read it complete. ( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every`1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, sex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death.
     
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  3. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    I don't like this not having a cup of tea rule.
    Next thing it'll be no biscuits.
     
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  5. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    What kind of God hates tea, anyway?
     
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  7. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Your little essay is entertaining, but calling it "practical" is a bit of an exaggeration.

    How about the continuity of the generations? When I was a baby, hundreds of millions of people were full-grown, with fully functioning memories. Quite a few of them were acquainted with my family and saw me as I grew older. That's more than enough evidence!

    You're misusing the word "fact." As the Linguistics Moderator, I urge you to use a standard dialect of English (British, American, Indian or Australia-New Zealand) so that we can understand you. Otherwise you are not communicating.

    There is no evidence that would be accepted in any court of law to prove that Krishna is anything more than a fairytale. Therefore his existence is not a fact.

    You seem to be confusing this "Comparative Religion" subforum with the "Religion" subforum. In the Religion subforum you are free to spout supernatural bullshit. But the Comparative Religion subforum is for scholarship, historical discussions, etc. This thread is in the wrong subforum and should be moved to Religion.

    Do you even have a university education??? Argument from authority is one of the basic fallacies. We all learned that in Philosophy 101A. You need to go back and complete your education.

    Speak for yourself.

    Yes, I am.

    You have no right to tell me whether I am happy or not. You don't even know me!

    How dare you! What insolence! What arrogance!

    Uh, I hate to break the news to you, but the 1960s are over!
     
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  8. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    No Onions?
    Why no onions?
    That's crazy.
     
  9. kwhilborn Banned Banned

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    Here is what life and death are...

    God is everything and with fine manipulations of matter steered the Universe into being. God was a consciousness with limited power. As life EVOLVED god was a part of it. God is both fish and fisherman. "God knows every sparrow that falls in the forest because god is every sparrow that falls in the forest" - Seth.

    Experiences is what it is all about. An Empty Universe was missing fun, adventure, and their counterparts in misery.

    All is one.

    Your purpose is to experience life good and bad. Every tragic death is felt by god, but there can be no good without bad. Tragedy is necessary for good to exist. One cannot exist without the other. Yet people will always ask how could god let that happen.

    What I call god is a mass consciousness that communicates what our world should look,feel,taste,sound like to every person during every waking moment.

    Reality does not exist and we only see our own projections. The apple I see is not the apple you see. If we both look at an object there will be two almost identical glasses in the same perceived location.

    Existence is a miracle, but god/universe must adhere to the laws it creates for itself.

    Every man is Wigner. His every move and decision does not follow any set path until it is collapsed by Wigners Friend (extension of Schrodingers Cat).

    Your entire existence is in a constant state of Superposition.

    The entirety of all consciousnesses in existence combined dictate paths. Expectations of others can influence you without physical interaction. i.e. Skepticism might thwart psi testing results because of belief alone.

    Expectation and belief create reality. We are all a part of god and have the ability to shape our own destiny through conscious thought.

    Thinking of things can aim the direction of the Wigner's Friend/Schrodingers Cat collapse.

    If I mention something semi obscure like Edgar Allan Poe.
    You have now thought of Poe and will attract Poe into your life. Soon you will hear someone mention the name Edgar Allan Poe either in person or through media. Perhaps hear a poem of his. This is called Synchronicity a term coined by Karl Jung.

    So be careful what you think, because you bring more of it. Dread a bill and you attract more dread and more bills. Be thankful for what you have as there is no better way to ask the Universe/God for more things to be thankful for.

    Constant gratefulness is the key to more constant gratefulness.

    If you die your individuality is still a part of everything. You can return or experience in other planes of existence.

    We are one is as simple as it gets.

    Imagine every one of the Billions of cells in your brain was conscious. Now imagine that they all believed in a reality, and you were an observer with very little control. They do not have any planets or solar systems unless they imagine them as a collective.

    Simple...

    That is my religion..
     
  10. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    Modern physics has postulated the existence of dark matter and dark energy. These are needed to explain the expansion of the universe as well as the needed gravity that holds galaxies together in spite of the rotations. It is believed to account for 5/6 of the matter and energy of the universe and is intimately intertwined with the matter of the universe.

    Dark matter and dark energy is still mysterious up close, and has never been directly seen in the lab. This dark stuff would make a good candidate for the realms of the after life that are postulated to exist beyond the material reality. Dark matter and energy has many of the properties that have been postulated from the past; not of this realm, not material, not limited by the laws of matter. Dark energy creates anti-gravity effects for levitation; meet the lord in the air.

    After life would be a somehow connected to life and/or the brain being able to interface the other realm, with information conserved. When the body dies the intimate connect between light matter and dark matter, allows the dark matter to conserves us. Being 5/6 of the universe there is plenty of room in the dark realms for all the souls of the past to be conserved.

    If life also evolved in the dark realm, but in another way of expression, they might see us beaming into that that realm as their means of birth. There is no sex in the afterlife so this may be their birthing process. Heaven and Hell would assume the dark realm makes use of polarizations such as we see in physics between negative and positive charges. This will be up to physics to prove when it can isolate dark matter.
     
  11. siledre Registered Senior Member

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    I'm a very avid skeptic of anything I can't see, smell, touch, taste, or hear, I don't necessarily need to have them all going at once but the more senses involved the better, Saying that, this is something I've shared with others in the past but to them it was so inconsequential they forgot about it. it is this, my earliest recollection of memory is seeing a graveyard and a gravestone from above it. I've had that memory in my head my whole life to the point that I don't know if it's something I brought with me or just a dream as a very young child or something that was put there through suggestion but it's there. Even if I were to take that as a sign of reincarnation, I cannot accept it as a truth and must remain skeptical of it. the only thing I can accept is that I am alive now, somewhat happy, comfortable and fulfilled. I guess I will have to wait till I die to find out.
     
  12. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    One practical use for the belief in the afterlife, is it appeases the fear of death. If I said that a disaster was coming tomorrow and we will all die, the fear of death will impact how people spend the rest of their assumed time. Some will freeze, some will panic, while others will become like animals. If I then walked up to certain people and told them I have an escape plan that will save our lives, those people will become rational and hopeful again, focusing energy on problem solving. When there is hope instead of fear humans act differently in ways more conducive to needs of life. When all hope is gone the rules begin to change toward the needs of death.

    An interesting afterlife scenario is the Christian heaven and hell. On the one hand, heaven is an escape route from death, so people can lose their fear of death and can work more comfortably towards the needs of life. But Hell is different, in that it is worse than just physical death. If you only died and went unconscious, that is scary enough. But say you not only have to go through this instinctive fear of death, but will also awaken into a realm of constant fear and torture? One would become afraid of death in a way that transcends instinct.

    I would guess this was invented for the compulsive, so they could develop more will power. The compulsive is not thinking long term, but is living in the impulse of the moment. The fear of death, which is longer term thinking, does not register. The serial killer is not worried about his own death, except in real time. The idea of Hell being a continuity of the moment, can help them develop the empathy needed to hold back and coexist. As they have done to others, demons will do to them.

    Whether there is religion or not people will ponder death, while fixation for some makes it harder to live.
     
  13. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    Say a culture started with the belief in heaven and hell. As an experiment, we remove these from culture. We start with the average person less fearful of physical death and the compulsive holding back their worse impulse to some extent. The change causes the average person to become more preoccupied with the fight and flight of death. Those who fight death are constantly looking for potions or distractions to stay young. While those who run from death find hiding places in drugs, alcohol and cults. The compulsive stop empathizing and become more and more bestial. Since the underlying fear is instinctive, real and collective, they also need to justify all these collective remedies with logic and laws. Those who do not fear, but retain the old ways, will also be made to fear one way or another, such as through persecution. Their faith needs to be broken so they can wake up and smell the fear.
     
  14. cornel Registered Senior Member

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    Is it possible that this grave is symbol for something you let die or buried away ? like your natural urge to fantasize or something similar, maybe your gullibulity to other people
    (i can easily imagine someone letting their gullibility/naïvity die after being lied to), since that would explain why you want sense everything
     
  15. cornel Registered Senior Member

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    @kwhilborn:
    "Reality does not exist and we only see our own projections. The apple I see is not the apple you see. If we both look at an object there will be two almost identical glasses in the same perceived location."

    Reality exists, and it is very real. But we must remember:how we experience reality does not define reality, it defines us.(and we're still part of reality)
     
  16. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Heaven and Hell, as understood in modern Christianity, are apocryphal accretions to Biblical Christianity. They appear to have arisen in the 19th century, in synch with the rise of democracy, industry, universal literacy and the entire paradigm of "modern" life. They have now been co-opted by virtually all Christian denominations, but apparently the Christians of the Renaissance, Middle Ages and Roman Era managed to get along without them.

    It's interesting to note that when contemporary American Christians were polled, the vast majority of them claimed to believe in Heaven, but only about 25% took Hell seriously.

    The Muslims also believe in Heaven, although I'm not enough of a religious scholar to pretend what Heaven means to them, other than the 72 virgins that will be waiting for every terrorist. Which of course seems to imply that Islam is the worst possible belief system for young women.

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    The Jews do not use this paradigm. They believe that when you die, your body just lies there. At some time that is unspecified but might be billions of years in the future, God will reanimate all the corpses and at that time they will be sorted into good people and bad people, and dealt with in some appropriate but also unspecified manner. This is the reason that Orthodox Jews do not allow autopsy, embalming or cremation of the dead, nor organ transplants. You don't want to wake up with freon in your veins, no heart, or a chest that is torn apart! (Of course they ignore the fact that in merely a century or two, an unembalmed body will have been devoured by the organisms in the soil.

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    ) Anyway, this is also the reason that Jews place more emphasis on behavior and obedience to The Law than to faith. When you die, your family will have to live with the evil deeds you did. Nobody will care if you were an atheist as long as you were a good person.

    Hey, that's not really a terribly bad philosophy, is it?

    There is also another reason. It took 70 years of being an aggressive, militant atheist, before someone was able to explain to me, very humbly and quietly, why she needs to hang onto the hope that there's a better life when this one is over. Her life has been a very real Hell. Incapacitating health problems, financial ruin, friends and family dying right and left (four in the last decade alone)... she's one of the nicest people I've ever met, and if there's one person who didn't deserve this totally crappy life, it's she. If believing in a wonderful afterlife gets her through the day, well more power to her.

    I can't share her belief, but I can be quiet about it. The image of her in a place where she's healthy and happy and all of her loved ones are with her... geeze that even gives me goosebumps. Wouldn't it be nice if it were true?

    And of course who doesn't wish, deep down inside, that it might be true that people like Timothy McVeigh and Adam Lanza are rotting in a pit of fire right now?
     
  17. spandrel Registered Member

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    I am hereby a confirmed Fraggle-Rocker.
    I heard someone say that the doing of good works was not a way into heaven. With that sort of cop out who needs religion? Do what you like and still get to heaven. Park on the corners by the church/mosque blocking the road for ambulances and firetrucks, it doesn't matter. You''l be going to heaven and everyone else is going to hell anyway. Wow that's gotta feel good eh?
    Which brings us onto the nature of belief. Being right feels good, being wrong feels bad. Very handy no doubt in the long slow slog of evolution, but now they've gone abstract, un-testable.Hold your beliefs lightly, they are probably wrong. Cosmic consciousness is a whole different kettle of Akarshic records. Belief is an impediment. The soul is here for its own joy. Consciousness is a necessary phenomenon of Universe. The sole requirement is to be aware, without thought or intellectualising. Trees are nice. Ooh look! A squirrel!
    Afterlife? Heaven? Just excuses for putting off living in the Now. Krishna was cool but, like Jesus, never expected to be mistaken for the message. The kingdom of heaven is within you. (Luke 17. twenty something)
    Auto Saved, I am reliably informed. So that's nice isn't it?
     
  18. firefighter1 Registered Member

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    who cares ? im selling Gold but i cannot sell iron at the place of Gold and if you want to buy Gold then you have to pay Good price similarly you have to follow rules and ragulation otherwise Hare Krishna mantra will still act but it will act in this manner just like for example :- if you will show fire to the dry wood then imediatly fire takes place but if wood is wet then only smoke will come which will only give pain to your eyes and nothing more similarly you have to follow complete rules and ragulation otherwise if you will chant with offence then it will also act but same like wet wood.
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    Here is no Question of Holy Books quotes, Personal Experiences, Faith or Belief. i accept that Sometimes Faith is also Blind. Here is already Practical explanation which already proved that every`1 else in this world is nothing more then Busy Foolish and totally idiot.
     
  19. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    One way to explain the afterlife is with a common physics thought experiment called the twin paradox. In this thought experiment, one twin is on a space ship traveling near the speed of light where relativity makes time slow down. The other twin remains on earth as a standard in time. When the two twins meet in the future, on the earth, the earth twin is much older, while the other twin appears younger because his time frame had slowed due to relativity. If they both were to live until 90 years old, the space ship twin will outlive the earth twin because he had conserved time due to relativity.

    Hypothetically, if life could generate a relativity time effect, part of us would linger longer after our earthy twin dies. Currently we only know that gravity and velocity can do this, so the mechanism would need to use one of these.

    If you look at the earth, the mass and its gravity causes a space-time well, with core of the earth in a different space-time reference than the surface. The earth has its own twin paradox of two references; core and surface. The ancients had the dead going below the surface; hades, where the time is more contracted and therefore the twin soul can linger. I am not saying this is proven, but the ancients chose wisely with the ideas of future physics; twin paradox using GR.
     
  20. firefighter1 Registered Member

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    you are talking nonsense ( because you didn't read this practical explanation yet ) and my `1st claim is this that you are all foolish rascal and idiots.

    *How ?*
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    simply tell me all details about your *`1 cheap minute ?* ( details of every single second that what- what you have thought or done on every single second )

    and if you *cannot* tell me about *`1 cheap minute* then how can you will tell me every single detail of your *whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ?*
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    then what is *use* of this your *so called education* if you cannot tell me or any`One everything *as it is* ?

    *and in same way you forgot your past life also and you are forgetting everything now also.*

    therefore your mind is not very broad. what is that called ? " Crippled."

    therefore where is your brain ? you don't have brain at all. and as far as question of these primary things sleeping, eating, sex and fear these things require your so called education these things are meant for street dogs and hogs.
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    and as far as question of human so human life has got purpose which is to become freed from birth after birth, old age, disease and death.
     
  21. firefighter1 Registered Member

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    special note : Intelligence has to do with the soul, not simply with the brain.

    Take electricity, for example. Electricity moves between gross elements and through a gross wire. But the electricity itself -- it is not those elements, not that wire. It is subtle.
     
  22. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Evidence needed.
     
  23. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Um, no. Take for instance a computer. It's the wires themselves, the pathways, connections, and switches that determine it's processing power. The electricity is part of it, but it's still physical. There is nothing supernatural about a working brain.
     

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