Hearing voices?

Discussion in 'Parapsychology' started by Swavey, Sep 14, 2013.

  1. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    When I said "Encrypt your Thoughts" I didn't mean internally in your head, I should of been clearer, I meant some people keep diaries or logs and tend to go for overzealous levels of encryption which most people usually query why anyone would want to even read their log let alone steal it The problem of course is they could only be identified with by people that are victimised and unfortunately various professionals still have a shortfall of seeing beyond they professions comfort bubble, so that victimisation is still being ignored.
     
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  3. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    Can't be too careful in the end. Thanks for clearing that up.
     
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  5. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    What are you saying? That auditory hallucinations AREN'T caused by schizophrenia/stress/trauma/drugs but instead are beamed inside skulls from some top secret government agency? Frankly, that's already a little paranoid. Such rationalizations are common among the foil helmeted. Along with the one about those tiny people who live inside the electrical outlets of your apt.

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  7. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    MR could you explain your reasoning again please?
     
  8. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    What I am stating is the current posed "Consensus" on the subject is wrong, it's both stereotyping and inaccurate because it doesn't query any further than the pigeon hole that things are placed in. There is plenty of examples of equipment being tested and used to achieve the manipulation of someone's mind, the only difference is the amount of time researchers have spent and the level of budget, after all if you talking about a Military with a blank cheque or a cult group that cashes in everyones possessions then they have the money to sink into it.

    Like I've stated though in both cases the problem is with the wrong archetypes of people running such systems, there is no industry standard, no consensus, no independent body policing it while "doctors" and fence sitters still have spatz over what is or isn't probable and point to this guy and his cat to mock people.
     
  9. Swavey Registered Member

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    Sorry for the late reply, but basically these pass couple of weeks they just been telling me random things like give your friends power and i would just do it (by saying it in my head ofcourse) and then i would hear there voIces saying thanks and they tell me what the powers are like and what there doing
     
  10. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    So what special powers do you give your friends?

    You speak these powers into their lives?

    Do you meet up with these friends are they any different?
     
  11. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Try this, keep a written log of any statements or phrases that get repeated. I'm pretty sure you'll find that they will repeat things on occasion (if not blatantly a lot), keeping a log of those statements could well be used as evidence in the near future.

    High levels of repetition will likely suggest a "Turing" automaton attempt, using a method that isn't legitimate science. Changes in the structuring is likely down to the whim of "students" who will alter the structure to try and make it seem more "human". "Fraternities" are known for "pranking" especially on people they see as weak, it's a pity they don't see themselves suffering from the sociopathy they attempt to manifest on others. Just ask them "Are they MAD (possibly nuts) Bro?"
     
  12. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Something that you might find interesting:
    POV: Why people give into temptation when no-one's watching [source:BBC]

    The same principle can be applied to those that Watch and Manipulate people through "voices", the question is however Who is the experimenter and who is the experimentee? While they might have all the equipment to watch with, scientifically speaking it's easier to collect evidence of what they get up to at their end.
     
  13. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    Please can you explain in more detail as to what you are thinking is happening in the case?
     
  14. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    If you read the article it mentions the Stanford Prison Experiment where Students played both prison guard and prisoners, the concerns by the end of the experiment was how far it could of gone with the escalation of archetype before something tragic might have happened.

    What I am implying is that there are a number (albeit limited) possibilities for some of the vocalised attacks that people suffer, they seem to be research based but don't cover the usual ethic or moral grounds that are usually existent within the scientific community, this implies a group that doesn't suffer from that moral obligation or are "blindly following morally objectionable orders".

    Most Scientific studies usually have to be passed by a particular Council or Governing body (unless privately funded), in such cases the actual planned study has to be submitted and reviewed before a board which will take into considering the ethical and moral implications of the study versus the posed rewards from the results. (Let's just say it concerns indemnity.) So again such groups misusing such systems are not concerned with the potential legal implications. (either due to a legal loophole or because they don't obey the law.)

    The current studies are worldwide effecting the citizens of a number of countries with different nationalities and languages. This means either one worldwide renowned group or organisation, or a particular nefarious government organisation from one particular government.

    The current studies have been heavy reliant upon GPS usage to maintain a constant bearing on those "victims" used, this is prior the commercial exploitation of GPS, which incidentally implies a focus on Military and Academic potentials.

    The system itself uses triangulated radio frequencies of varying spectrum's. Notably this would require access to a number of supporting antenna's that would either have to be installed in a country as apart of their defence network (communications) or through the exploitation of commercially viable systems (Such as mobile telecommunications cell nodes that potentially have GPS integration)

    The Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) was responsible for the Stanford Prison Experiment and happens to fit closely to what sort of group or organisation would be responsible for the "voice" phenomenon, however considering the widespread abuse and the fact that there are a lot of Airforce bases worldwide, it might put into question if there was in fact a rival USAF lab, which there is (AFRL).

    So in conclusion, likely a government military group (like the ones mentioned) with lesser potentials in regards to private companies/groups like defence contractors (similar to Janes), with a smaller possibility of various cult movements being the perps.
     
  15. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    A solution that may help is to ask your "inferior" vocal "friends" to allow you to listen to God and not them.

    If God says something that is audible then you know you are not listening to God.

    Listen to the silence [white noise] and you are listening to God.

    "For god has no need to say anything"

    [video=youtube;fPo6v0KhBdw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPo6v0KhBdw[/video]
     
  16. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    That is simply not true.
    But the idea of asking your "inferior" vocal "friends" to shut up for a while so you can listen to God could work, but I would also ask that you ask God to tell your "inferior" vocal "friends" to shut up for a while so that you can listen to God and not them.

    It might be silence but it might not, but keep us informed.
     
  17. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    The questions needed to be asked:
    Why are the voices using English and not Russian or Chinese etc.
    Why aren't they using the universal language of "pure meaning".

    Next time they suggest something write it down and date it. Say that you will consider the notion over the next 7 days and reach a decision then and only then. [ normally the voices feed on your reflexive and immediate reactions and not your considered actions ]

    Other techniques people have used to determine the emotional nature of the voices can be used.

    Theoretically the human mind is composed of all voices and when certain stresses are present fragmentation of the "sum of all voices" [ which is your voice - a composition of all voices that incorporates your unique perspective] is generated creating an impulsive series of your own voice fragments. Hyper emotional states tend to exasperate the condition, plus typically intense fear [ paranoia] is present. The reason they are so compelling is that they may be in fact, a fragmented reflection of your own voice and can be used for self discovery if you are capable of resisting some of the challenging compulsions.
    This is why some people believe they are ET aliens etc as they are hearing ET alien voices...[in reflection]


    Another technique I have offered sufferers is to get them to anonymously email a particular gmail email address with their renditions of what the voices are saying [no response is sent]. The emails are then distributed amongst various folders according to subject line. This mitigates or breaks the strong influences being applied to keep them secret. So far there are thousands of emails all talking about the same stuff.. so really there is no secret...as so many people are suffering similar states.

    the email address is:

    exemplilacesso@gmail.com

    Just thoughts...
     
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  18. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    When I was at the apex of being badgered by voices on long lonely nights, a train would frequently come by sounding it's whistle lightly at around 2AM. I called that sound "God." It was the one sure sound of something I really knew was there. It gave me peace of mind to hear it.
     
  19. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    So how did you overcome this problem?
     
  20. Dracs007 Registered Member

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    ive hallucinated once, under drug influence. It was the weirdest thing ever. I found my body between two realities. on my left side and the whole left half of my body is in the room im standing at, but at the right side, im standing on top of a tall mountain and there is a river below. so it was like there was glass wall separating the two realities and the two verticle halves of my body and i literally had to pull myself through the glass plane to come back to my reality. I could feel the cool sticky thing as i was pulling myself to the left. it was the weirdest and scariest experience ever.

    Quantum mechanics says unless conciously observed matter sort of exists in two or more places or even everywhere. when we are cognitively aware, we are where we are because of the very laws of quantum mechanics, but when u get high and lose ur cognition to some degree, consciousness itself got confused and i found myself in two places.
     
  21. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    A lot of persons I have talked with utilize recorded music in a similar vain.
    [Noting the reactions amongst challenged persons to, for example, the recorded message system commonly on metro trains announcing the trains arrival at a station.]

    Another technique suggested that seems to have some effectiveness is to have a recorded audio device playing [eg. a mp3 player with speaker worn on a necklace.] using speakers positioned so that it is pointing the sound waves/vibrations at the "Thymus" gland [central chest/solar plexus] and listen to the music with both the Thymus gland [via vibrations] and your ears. Theoretically this re-trains the ears to listen and re-synch with a very important part of the bodies "auto immune" and healing systems via the persons proprioceptive awareness. the more subtle the better , teasing the ears to listen to "audible" sound that others can hear if they listen for it as well..
     
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  22. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    thus experiencing zero & 3 dimensional space simultaneously?
     
  23. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    If you truly had that effect, you'd likely find your only direction would have been the reality you are use to. The effect you would of observed would of likely been a trick, you might have been sharing someone else's observation and you wouldn't of been able to occupy their space.
     

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