Yes here it is, your arguements were proved to be full of holes so you start the personal attacks...the ad hominem. This is a classical error in logic my friend, and very typical of limbaugh, hannity, levin followers. Your conservative scientist example makes NO SENSE at all. I gave you the proof that the insurance industry was making stuff up and using allies in the Republican Party and conservative media to promulgate lies and dirty tricks.I GAVE YOU A CONFESSION FROM A HIGH RANKING INSURANCE EXECUTIVE DOING IT. You understand what a confession is right? Not only does the guy confess, he gives you details, facts and other evidence which you of course just ignore...funny. You are not a seeker of truth. Your response shows you to be pushing a biased agenda...ignoring facts that go against your preconcieved positions.