Healing Cancer from the Inside Out

Discussion in 'Health & Fitness' started by stateofmind, Mar 29, 2009.

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What's the best cancer treatment?

  1. Chemotherapy and conventional cancer treatments give the best chances of curing cancer.

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  2. Conventional and unconventional methods have about the same chances of curing cancer.

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  3. Unconventional, non-poisonous methods are a patient's best bet.

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  1. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Nah, I use eMule: but that file does nothing for some reason.
    I was suspicious when it downloaded in about half a second.
    I'll try the link again, but I'm getting close to my download limits as it is.
    Might have to wait for the start of a new month

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  3. stateofmind seeker of lies Valued Senior Member

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    Well torrent files are really small - this one is only 14kb. I don't have any experience with eMule so I don't know what could be wrong. If you do see the movie sometime let me know what you think.
     
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  5. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Sure thing.
    If it's free I can afford it

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  7. Algernon Registered Senior Member

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    A friend of mine had an oncologist from a well known institution recommend interleukin and interferon treatment for cancer. He also recommended a 2nd opinion from another friend of his.

    She went to see his oncologist friend at this other very well known institution (I apologize if I cannot name the said institutions because I am obliged under HIPAA policy) and he recommended against IF and IL. He suggested some tyrosine kinase inhibitor chemotherapeutic drugs (One being sunitinib) which actually didn't target her specific sarcoma but rather it had shown effectiveness against different types of tumor receptors and could possibly shrink it if not slow the growth of the tumor cells that had metastisized. These drugs were fairly low toxicity and low on the side-effects chart (or so says my pharmacist friend). The difference is also that IL and IF are given intravenously while sunitinib(sutent) can be taken orally.
     
  8. kmguru Staff Member

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    Once you are diagnosed with Cancer, this has been going on for 4 to 5 years and is very hard to change the natural way. Radical therapy like chemo, radiation, microwave etc. are needed. But one can make a radical life style changes and may, just may come out healed. That is a risk though.

    Better to start preventive measures now....
     
  9. stateofmind seeker of lies Valued Senior Member

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    Actually there are two main kinds of cancers; ones that develop quickly ones that develop slowly. This is why getting regular check-ups for cancer is useless and a waste of money. Since the scanning techniques used today are only useful for finding the slow cancers, which is what they find if they find anything, the fact that doctors rush their patients into treatment as fast as possible makes one think that there's some kind of scam going on. The slow cancers take a while to kill people, giving a person ample time to do thoughtful research on what the best treatment would be for them.

    Many cancer patients say that the standard procedures for treating cancer, like chemo, are worse than the cancer itself.

    On another note, today I thought of another example of how opposites give meaning and existence to each other. If there was a person who was healthy their entire life and never heard or saw or sensed in any way any existence of sickness, decay or death, that person would not know what health was.
     
  10. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    what a load of crap, my mother is only alive because she does regular breast checks and when she noticed something out of the ordenry went and got a mamagram, had her breast (and the respective lympth nodes) removed and had chemo and the anti estrogen drug (i always forget the name)
     
  11. kmguru Staff Member

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    Are you saying, just because you never flew in an airplane, you would not know what it is? or that you have not been on the top of a mountain....or that you have not taken cyanide, what it is...etc....
     
  12. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    Stateofmind, your posts are quite depressing to me. They are reminders of how a very large percentage of reasonably educated and intelligent people believe in complete and utter nonsense.
     
  13. stateofmind seeker of lies Valued Senior Member

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    No, that's something different. Remember we're dealing with perfect opposites here. Try to imagine eliminating one side of an opposite - it's impossible because they give meaning to each other; one cannot exist without the other, and if something doesn't exist it cannot be perceived.
     
  14. kmguru Staff Member

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    Me thinks:

    Breast Cancer has a direct corelation with ingestion of food with small amount of pesticide due to modern agricultural process for a long period that may connect to estrogen receptors in the body and in the breast.
     
  15. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    kmguru possably, i will grant you that breast cancer is wierd in that it has a very similar graph to the SES graph. Ie the higher the women's SES, the more likly she is to have breast cancer. All the other cancers, CVD, stroke ect tend to follow an inverse of the SES graph
     
  16. kmguru Staff Member

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    I have not done any serious, technical research on Cancer because the technical data that I need is not available publicly.

    Long ago, I had an opportunity to be a part of the research team for a Breast Cancer Specialist because I teach meditation and the purpose was to reduce organ inflammation and bring the body to homeostasis....but I got too involved in my job - the rocket science.

    Anyway, since body follows "Control Theory", and doctors lack that part of the education, it will be a long time before we can find the real causes - just like our American Economy!

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  17. kmguru Staff Member

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    Health and Sickness are as opposites as Apples and Oranges are...
     
  18. stateofmind seeker of lies Valued Senior Member

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    Give me a break!

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    What are the opposites of health and sickness then?
     
  19. kmguru Staff Member

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    The same opposite as opposite of Apple....I am sure you will figure it out if your mind is healthy....

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  20. stateofmind seeker of lies Valued Senior Member

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    An apple isn't a good specimen though... it's a mix of many different elements. It would fall somewhere around the middle of the spectrum. The opposites I'm talking about are absolutes and cannot be achieved in their pure form in reality e.g. black-white, big-small, healthy-sick, alive-dead etc.
     
  21. stateofmind seeker of lies Valued Senior Member

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  22. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    Here's the basic problem with your premise: There are many, many cancer researchers in various universities and hospitals who would all LOVE to come up with a new treatment, let alone a cure. These people are not on the payroll of the AMA, ACS, or the drug companies; they are just individual researchers (and groups of researchers) who all want to advance their own careers by discovering new cancer treatments, regardless of what effect it might have on drug companies etc. These people have no discernible motivation to "demonize" anything that might work.

    In fact, the more surprising or outlandish the new treatment, the more they wish it would work, because a surprising new treatment that doesn't seem like it should work would bring a lot more fame and research papers and grants than an "unsurprising" new treatment. So, while it is perhaps true that researchers in some big drug company that made a lot of money treating cancer would have a motivation to suppress or ignore "alternative" treatments that they couldn't make money off of, there are still many serious cancer researchers who do not have such a motivation.
     
  23. stateofmind seeker of lies Valued Senior Member

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    Yah, of course there are some cancer researchers looking for a cure - I saw a video a little while ago of a guy who found a way to target and kill cancer cells by burning saltwater. He'd been contacted by big pharmaceutical companies to sell his research but he refused because he was sure they would take it and suppress it.

    The main people I think are corrupt in all of this are the head honchos that everyone seems to believe in.
     

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