In fact the disagreement started with your support to the idea that something gets exported from inside the EH. With this incorrect notion as base, I do not feel that one can dismiss HR. You moved on to preferential treatment given to the negative particle. None of your subsequent posts touches upon Hawking original paper, as supplied, on this issue. Clearly suggesting that this point is not clearly understood. So pl tell what common ground is there for agreement on this? May be you can tell.