This HR thing is being discussed for last 2-3 threads. My stand was consistent and unwaivering, as follows.. 1. I had raised an objection that this + / - energy particle interpretation is vague and not clear, Schemelzer also had clearly expressed the sloppiness of this, subsequently Q-reeus put it clearly raising the same objection, but Paddoboy continued with his popular cut pastes, finally based on Q-reeus post Tashja organised some responses. Prof Unruh and others clarified that indeed this interpretation is popular one and not exact. That settled this. 2. I also raised an objection that an isolated BH is an impossibility, and the evaporation of BH is possible only if we ignore CMBR and accretion by BH. As usual Paddoboy killed this argument also. Now Prof Misner has confirmed this too that absorption of CMBR is more than HR emission. Its like this if you take a very big tank, and the inflow is more than the outflow, then the Tank is not going to get empty, and dreaming that tank will get empty is only a fantasy. So here also I said 'Evaporation of BH' is a fantasy as long as CMBR absorption is there, and as rightly put by Q-reeus as long as CMBR T > HR T. In this era with HR T being as low as nano kelvin for solar BHs, we never know when CMBR T (2.7 K as of now) will fall below that or otherway round.. Even now Paddoboy is trying to misinterpret what Prof Misner is saying, just to prove me wrong. Now there is one more issue which got created due to Prof Misner response.....I feel that HR would be there even if there is no complete empty space around, I mean getting the absolute vacuum is not in our realms of possibilities, so if we take his words on face value then that would make even HR unviable, what he probably is referring is presence of CMBR and its absorption and thus impossibility of BH evaporation. I do not think he is trying to say that complete empty space (Without even CMBR) is required around BH for HR emission.