Has any thought been given to which language god spoke to Adam and Eve?

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  1. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 71 years old Valued Senior Member

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    There is a supposed English translation in some sort of book floating around

    But just as you hearing you didn't understand I doubt if your reading will do any better

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  3. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Sumerians invented the god, the garden, the people and the flood apparently according to the recovered clay tablets that say as much so my money would be on them speaking the Sumerian language.
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  5. River Ape Valued Senior Member

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    "Madam, I'm Adam."
    Only in English do the first words ever spoken produce a palindrome
    though they go oddly unreported in the KJV.
     
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  7. mathman Valued Senior Member

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    The original language of the Old Testament was Hebrew - god's language?
     
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  8. Luchito Registered Senior Member

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    The original language spoken by Adan up to the tower of Babel has been lost.

    Hebrew language appeared because Eber, and regardless of the story that Eber didn't participate in the building of the tower of Babel, it is shown that Hebrew is at the same level of other Semite languages of those areas plus there are studies showing that biblical writings also borrowed words from other cultures.

    The original language was simple, having words with several different meanings because it lacked of much "diversity".

    Of course the oldest "Hebrew" copies are just that, copies made from ancient writings, but with updated changes fitting the new way of speaking thru centuries and millenniums.
     
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    I would think that the answer to this question is hinted at after the twenty one minute mark in this video by former Atheist and near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava?


     
  10. Luchito Registered Senior Member

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    A common mistake is to think a certain culture is the origin of a certain belief because is the one that wrote the story before the rest. The different versions of the god(s), garden and flood are found all around the world, even the Popoh Vul mentions similar situationst The most accurate conclusion is that the different cultures come form a single original one, and after dispersing to new lands, the cultures kept what they can remember and this caused the similitude of events but the change of details and names of the characters.
     
  11. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    How, exactly, did you decide that it is "the most accurate conclusion"?
     
  12. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    equal rights for apple tree snakes !
     
  13. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 71 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Oh my sick mind

    No I will resist temptation

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  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    it seems obvious though
    2 things
    1 phallic representation and so resisting having sex with other men to control the genetics of the breeding
    women were used as breeding cattle in groups
    had no rights

    other things
    the snake has some lost metaphor toward maybe animals as reptiles were some of the oldest and most deadly
    a woman would be required to keep venomous reptiles out of the cave to keep the off spring alive including the sleeping cave men
    a woman may have typically used a snake in the cave to kill an excessively violent male

    given animism was the prevalent religion
    snakes might have taken on a nature of religious tone toward being inherently bad
    and over time the snake has become a symbol of paranoia concepts and also a phallic symbol of the religious aspect to control women as slaves & so deny them sexual freedom.

    women in conservative religion do not own their own sexuality
    they are owned as a slave to the oldest highest ranking male
    who cant take and give away that slave to which ever person they choose
    this culture is typical in many cultures
    including the bible belt in the USA today
     
  15. Dicart Registered Senior Member

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    Perhaps, but concerning heaven and the story of the tree and the "snake", there is, in my opinion, no snake at all involved here... but "a serpent".
    God removed the wings and feets from "the contradictor", the adversary, the dragon, (serpent in greek could be the serpent of the sea, so some dragon) so he became "like a snake" (he was not like that before the transgression).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpents_in_the_Bible

    There are many other interpretations too, but i prefer this above.
     
  16. Luchito Registered Senior Member

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    Because you compare the versions one against the another.

    No matter which one published its version in writing while the others did it centuries or millenniums later.

    When you take the essence of them, the versions are found to have the same origin.
     
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    There may be a real explanation to the flood story. There is some archaeological evidence that the Black Sea had such a flood.
    https://www.historicmysteries.com/black-sea-flood/
    Flood stories in many cultures near the Black Sea may have resulted.
     
  18. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    so there was
    adam
    eve
    and a 3rd person who was mutilated by god as punishment
    ...
    who is this 3rd person ?(in your opinion) satan ?(Lucifer the light bringer?)

    why would god mutilate one of his own loved creations ? (in your opinion)

    when the intent is to prove there is only 1 god
    and the need to place 1 dictator at the top
    then all things must come from the same source

    if the time lines do not match then they need to prove time travel is possible
    or some equal way the same origin has been recycled over millennia from 1 isolated society to another

    i notice the UFology lost civilization and some religious theory's are quite similar in how they think time lines are way off by thousands of years.
    you cant throw out the same model of theory and then use it on something else and say it suddenly becomes re-validated because you have switched out the content.

    i rarely comment on theology
    but this subject has been injected into linguistics
    which is a personal hobby
    so im joining in

    my questions are intentional and asked expecting an answer
    should you confuse the direction now that it may not suit your intended outcome
     
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  19. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    That's not the conclusion made by science.
     
  20. Luchito Registered Senior Member

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    Fossil of snakes with legs have been found already, so there is no need to speculate the biblical narration is incorrect.

    The bible says the snake lost its legs, evidence proves this fact, snakes used to have legs.


    Time travel... enough! You are mixing religious beliefs with your fantasies.
     
  21. Luchito Registered Senior Member

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    I will tell you a fact: Science doesn't know at all how language came to be in humans the way we use it.

    In other words, science has a complete ignorance about how language was originated.

    Who cares what science says about it then?
     
  22. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 71 years old Valued Senior Member

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    I will let Yoda take this one. Even though a fictional character Yoda is smarter

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  23. Luchito Registered Senior Member

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    Funny you are.
     

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