Halo vs Star Trek

Discussion in 'SciFi & Fantasy' started by SaphireKosmos, Jun 20, 2007.

  1. OrionIICarlSagan Registered Member

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    USS Enterprise-F (Star Trek Online) Versus Shadow of Intent (Halo)

    The brand new Odyssey-class Star Cruiser from Star Trek Online known as the USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-F) is up against the Covenant Assault Carrier from Halo known as the Shadow of Intent. Who wins?

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  3. OrionIICarlSagan Registered Member

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    I love Star Trek for its values and I loathe Halo because it is war propaganda.
     
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  5. Kittamaru Never cruel nor cowardly... Staff Member

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    Orion - that depends on so many factors, namely where you get your figures from:

    In an ideal matchup (using logical facts and cannon from both sides) it's a pretty even match and would be dependent almost entirely upon who had the better tactics.

    Thing is, you could skew the "facts" on either side: Example, in Star Trek: Orion Pirates, a ship from the era between TOS and TNG was capable of obliterating (literally, mass-scattering) an earth-like planet on it's own... so, yeah... depends on what "cannon" you use.
     
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  7. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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    Why would you try to compair the medium low tier tech of one against the top tier tech of another? If you compair the top against the top (Foruners vs. Federation) they are as far beyond the federation (I.E. The Halos which can end all life in the entire galaxy that has a spinal cord in one shot) as the federation is beyond us.
     
  8. Kittamaru Never cruel nor cowardly... Staff Member

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    Some people do that to try to make their side win... it's a sad tactic in arguments overall, but one that is used far too often, especially where sci-fi is concerned.
     
  9. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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    I would have to put my money on the covenent cruser though. They can execute slip space jumps literally on a dime, they have been using this tech for a long time where the feds just recently got it. They have large scale plasma weapons that can be manuvered as photon torpedoes can. They also have shields that can stand up to energy weapons with ease and even absorb large kinetic impacts, which is something the feds have not shown to be able to do. No teleporters though and Phasers may be a better weapon if they can get through that shield.
     
  10. Kittamaru Never cruel nor cowardly... Staff Member

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    Which is where the dependence on what you source your facts from comes in - in one perspective, Federation phasers are capable of sloughing the atmosphere off an earth-class planet in a single blast; in others, a Defiant class starship can slag a planet in mere minutes on its own. In still others, a Galaxy class starship puts out less power than a nuclear reactor... it's... inconsistent
     
  11. OrionIICarlSagan Registered Member

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    Transphasic Torpedoes

    I am convinced that transphasic torpedoes can easily destroy any Mt Halo Capital Ship. Transphasic torpedoes appear in the final Star Trek Voyager episode called "Endgame". A single transphasic torpedo can destroy an entire Borg Cude all by itself. With trasnsphasic torpedoes, the glorious Star Trek can defeat the Halo Empire. If the Enterprise-F from Star Trek Online has trasnphasic torpedoes, it can really crush the much larger Shadow of Intent. Even quantum torpedoes can inflict serious damage on any Mt Halo warship they hit.
     
  12. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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    Explain to me how exactly this one single weapon beats the Halo array? Did you miss the part on how they are capable of wiping every single life form in the entire galaxy that has a spinal cord in one shot? You may want to read up:

    http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halo_Array

    Nothing in the Star trek universe even compairs. If thats not enough for you look at this:

    http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Installation_00
    http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Forerunner
    http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Shield_World
    http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Slipstream_Space

    Slip space is something that the federation has only recently developed. The forerunners have had this technology for hundreds of thousands of years. Since they have this type of technology and use it for weaponry they also have defenses against it meaning that their shields would most likely be able to stop transphasic torpedoes without a problem. If not they still have the tech using their pin point control of slip space to do something like drop a torpedo in your warp core from half way accross the galaxy.

    Forerunners >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Federation
     
  13. Kittamaru Never cruel nor cowardly... Staff Member

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    The reason Transphasic torpedoes are so powerful is because of HOW they work - they, essentially, bypass the shields, armor, and hull of the target ship and unleash their full destructive potential on the interior, supposedly by "phasing" out of reality until the moment of detonation.

    Plus, if I'm not mistaken... aren't the Forerunners gone? As in, gone gone - they activated the Halo and *poof* all organic life ceased to exist...?
     
  14. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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    All their stuff is still there for the taking. It is also doubtful that they are actually gone and considering the trailer for the new game it is very likely that they escaped the distruction in one of their many shield worlds (see above) That is not what transphasic torpedoes do btw:

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Transphasic_torpedo

    The torpedo itself does not get through the shields, only the explosion. IMO shields that could stop slip space weapons which are currently beyond the capabilitys of the Feds could probably stop that as well, especially since if you read the same page it appears that the Feds have shields with that capability and the forerunners have at least a 100,000+ year head start. Also, since the torpedo doesn't make it but the explosion does it and since the forerunner building materials are far superior even if makes it through it is likely it would only do light damage.
     
  15. Kittamaru Never cruel nor cowardly... Staff Member

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    *shrugs* it's quite possible they could, though not right away (after all, they've never encountered something quite like that before). Though, since the people using said forerunner technology would be using what to them are ancient artifacts, who are we to say they know how to properly use them (after all, they wanted to wipe out all organic life again, including themselves, lol)
     
  16. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, the prophets were pretty dumb in that reguard lol. Cortana sure new how to use them properly though

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  17. Kittamaru Never cruel nor cowardly... Staff Member

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    LOL, didn't she though, kicked some ass that one did!

    Honestly, though, I think in a ST v Halo match, Master Chief and Co would team up with the Feddies and kick the Covvies backsides in ways they couldn't have imagined

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