Here is the sequence of posts that led to the post you were just responding to. My post, The two imediately preceding. You could also follow the links back, but then .... The issue was and is whether Gravity is self gravitating! No matter how anyone chooses to argue to question one way or the other. As Q-reeus pointed out you dredged up the old debate, even if you forgot what it was about. Edit to add, BTW the reason I started with the selective recall comment is that I have also questioned the idea that Gravity is self gravitating.., and in discussions that you were a party to.