# Gravitational curve/field reconfiguration

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience' started by BdS, Nov 8, 2015.

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Oh! thanks, that sorted it all out.

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If I called paddoboy and origin crackpots, how long would my ban be?

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7. ### originIn a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect.Valued Senior Member

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I don't think that is a banable offense; you crackpot.

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The truth sometimes is hard to face...Let me say it again, we have irrefutable evidence that light/photons travel at a finite speed, and we have good evidence that light always travels at "c"

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9. ### originIn a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect.Valued Senior Member

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You are making the mistake of thinking that there is a preferred frame. You are saying that your reference frame is moving, but there is really no way to prove that you are absolutely moving, you can only say you are moving relative to something else, but you cannot even say who is 'actually' moving. So when you try to say the light is moving at c + v, that is wrong because there is NO WAY to determine if there even is a 'v'.

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I cant prove the earth is moving and spinning?

in multiple directions, Its night here because the earth is spinning, not because the sun is orbiting the earth. Im sure there is proof the solar system is orbiting in the galaxy and can be measured just like the link I provided worked out the speed of the orbit. How could they have worked out the speed if the is NO WAY to determine if there is even a 'v'?

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You are proving it

Im not disputing that, so stop saying it.

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There is always a 'v', because we know that everything is moving.

13. ### originIn a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect.Valued Senior Member

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You are simply saying that we can be sure we are moving relative to something else. You cannot however say there is some absolute velocity that we are moving that should effect a light beam. Relative to the Vega super cluster we are moving in some convoluted spiral thorough space.

For instance if you woke up in a plane with no windows there is no experiment that you could device that could tell you if you were flying at 600 mph or if the plane was on the ground motionless and just being shaken with the sound of engines piped in. That is how reference frames are.

There is an experiment to see if you are on a rotating planet though.

14. ### originIn a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect.Valued Senior Member

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Every time you say c + v, you are disputing it.

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And light always travels in straight lines at c + v

Yes I could not even shine a light and detect a drift to determine my velocity, because light propagates at c + v

c + v has nothing to do with FINITE or INFINITE, c = 299792458m (finite) + v (finite) where is there infinite in there?

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I would only detect a drift if I was in an accelerating frame... the drift would be equal to the amount I accelerated from when the photon left the emitter to when it reaches the detector.

17. ### originIn a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect.Valued Senior Member

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Every single experiment has indicated that light ONLY travels at c in a vacuum and NEVER travels at c + v. Why do you want to remain ignorant?

Stop embarrassing yourself.

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You mean your version of the truth that more than 100 years of science and SR are now wrong according to your say so?

Dream on my friend.

19. ### originIn a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect.Valued Senior Member

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This is absolutely correct.

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Not my say so, natures! 100 years, link me the proof.
If you say that light travels at only c then we must detect the drift in my experiment and light doesn't travel in straight lines in the emitters frame.
I know! and so is the c + v, because if it wasn't absolutely correct then light would only travel at c.
Stop embarrassing yourself.

I can say the whole universe is moving on a higher scale with a velocity proportional to the mass of the whole universe. All the mass and energy is moving at v with the universe. speculation? of course, possible? maybe
Like how they accelerate particles and the quarks move with the particles.

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Actually you are only embarrassing yourself. Light/photons essential, only ever travel at "c"by definition of being a massless particle.
But even though you are in pseudoscience [havn't you noticed

] if you believe you have any astonishing awesome new discovery, do what I tell all our alternative nuts to do. write a paper and submit it for peer review.
Let me know how you go.

22. ### originIn a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect.Valued Senior Member

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Wrong.
It does only travel at c.
Don't worry I'm not.
You just stop before you hurt yourself.

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Theres the 100 year old indisputable proof I was looking for.