the physicist and his thought Physicists cannot observe particles because they disappear into probability clouds. After the observation the physicist is a wave or the physicist is a particle. The particle is the same as a wave but not to the physicist that is/creates the difference. .-=- The mind cannot observe thoughts because The mind is the thought (that it thus can never observe. Try it, in meditation.) Or the mind is the memory of a thought. The thought and the memory are the same but not to the mind that is/creates the difference. Just like physics tells us: the mind is everything it observes and also everything it thinks it thinks when there is no thinking because thinking is just a thought, the mind. Where is the flaw in this logic that religions and universities must have if they are to be "real"?