Gi Jane, if you please

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by sunnevershines, Feb 3, 2016.

  1. birch Valued Senior Member

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    I never said it was the only one. But infantry is more physically arduous and that is why it was not open to women. I really dont think it had anything much to do with sexism. But like any profession, its no longer based on gender or shouldnt be.

    If a woman is qualified, then gender doesnt matter. There are just other political and social issues that may need to be addressed such as if there will be a rise in sexual harassment charges or how the women would be treated. These may not be a major issue or it could be eventually ironed out.
     
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  3. birch Valued Senior Member

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    Your reply along with others is an outright lie. This is your tactic in order to formulate a false argument.

    I never said 'all women are incapable'.

    I would really like to see someone post an actual legitimate argument. All i see is a bunch of accusations and strawmen.

    Why is it that everyone is too much of a coward to do so?

    Fiddling with the genome and changing standards is about it.

    My position is if someone is qualified, thats all that matters. The addendum added that fewer women compared to men qualify is still the undercurrent of why you ultra-liberals are upset.

    You really think its not obvious? Or have you all just using this thread to poke at me? Lmao

    Btw, this is not misogyny. What i posted in another thread is sexist. Do you think i dont know what sexism is?

    What is really going on is you are going by my statements in another thread or topic (which was more a joke) to formulate a character profile to base your arguments on this thread. None of you have really been that interested in the topic seriously at all.

    Its evident by your accusation of 'racism' which had no bearing on this subject matter.

    Do you really think that you are the only people who can think? You people underestimate others.
     
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  5. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    OK fair enough. Your reply prompted me to have a look on the internet, as a result of which I found this recent (2014) assessment of whether the British Army should allow women into Ground Close Combat (GCC) roles, from which they are currently excluded, it seems: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...389575/20141218_WGCC_Findings_Paper_Final.pdf

    An interesting consideration of the various requirements here and indeed it looks as if physical strength and robustness are regarded as significant issues, though the Army is clearly starting to think about the availability of recruits and the limitations they impose on themselves if they rule out the talent pool represented by women interested in serving in these roles. A situation currently in flux, evidently.
     
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  7. PhysBang Valued Senior Member

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    Ah, the standard conservative tactic to attribute their own behavior to others.
     
  8. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I'm still here.

    Chew me out, tell me how dumb I am.
     
  9. birch Valued Senior Member

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    Ah Touche, another false dichotomy. You really needed to paint me as a conservative so you all could have the polar-opposite enemy to argue your extreme leftist bs against. How embarassing for you. Didnt work out too well, did it?

    The funny thing is my first post was a generalization though true, at least for now. My second post clearly stated if thats a woman's chosen profession, more power to her.

    Anyone with common sense would have been able to deduce just from those two posts i was in favor of women, really anyone, going for what they want but with more realism because i know infantry and spec ops is difficult as it currently stands.
     
  10. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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  11. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    also known as "projection"
     
  12. birch Valued Senior Member

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    Even before i read it, i knew it was the road march that did those women in. After having ran five miles in under forty minutes, the road march was twelve miles with a fifty pound pack in under three hours.

    Still i think women can do this as fifty pounds is heavy but not impossible if one is very determined and trains before they get to ranger school. It would take a lot of conditioning focused on upper body/back.

    many veterans have claims from back injuries from when they were in the service. It doesnt always show up right away.
     
  13. BrianHarwarespecialist We shall Ionize!i Registered Senior Member

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    Lol
     
  14. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I'm still waiting, He-Man.
     
  15. BrianHarwarespecialist We shall Ionize!i Registered Senior Member

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    People should work on thier reading comprehension skills, I think a lot less people would have to die if everyone did this.
     
  16. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    There seems to be a bit of confusion of terms used in this thread.
    Point of clarification:
    At 3473 troops, the rangers are less than 1%(.63754%) of the us army meanwhile about 33% of the army are "combat troops".

    There are more when you add in the green berets and delta force.
     
  17. PhysBang Valued Senior Member

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    Dude. I call you a conservative because you are betraying all the symptoms of one. Eg., ordinary people do not run around calling people "liberals" and "extreme leftists".
     
  18. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    birch, not only were you the first one to bring up political sides, in post 78:
    but you beat on it several more times. In post 115:
    post 151:
    and post 153:
    It wasn't until post 201 that anyone other than you did any political labeling.

    And now you're whining about it.

    As has been said - each time you've accused others of something, it has been you who kicked the door open.

    Have you considered growing up?
     
  19. Oystein Registered Senior Member

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    This thread has been ruined by birch. It should probably be locked.
     
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  20. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Are you a doctor? Can you substantiate anything you said?
     
  21. Edont Knoff Registered Senior Member

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    Umm, at tasks where I'm bad at, that's my natural reaction - spend more time training, and practise more intesely. I've done martial arts for ten years, and I got a quite clear picture that I'm not naturally talented, but I must make up for my lack in talent by investing more time and effort.

    In average it took me twice as long to reach the same grade than others.

    Same in art - many years have passed and I advanced from bad to mediocre, in some areas to good. What I can do after ten, fifteen years, other could do after 1 or 2. Yes, I suck like that at art. But still, I made my way.

    On the other hand, I'm a good software designer and programmer. That's where my natural talent lies.

    But where is the problem? It's always like this, not only between men and women, but also in a group of the same sex - some are better at something and the others must work harder for the same results. If someone is lacking but wants to achieve a goal, the answer is more training, more practise.
     
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  22. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    The basic training and AIT are limited for a specific period of time. The additional training for a soldier comes in at his/her first assignment. Unfortunately, during a time of war, that might be a combat assignment.
     
  23. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not concerned with your basic training.
     

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