German science progress before and during the 2nd world war

Discussion in 'Alternative Theories' started by river, Jul 22, 2014.

  1. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Wow, we've been traveling in time since magnetrons were invented in 1940! Just think, every time you turn on the microwave - boom! - you heat up your great-great-grandfather's burrito.
     
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  3. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Absolute nonsense.
    Germany halted all research into nuclear weapons in late '39. Restarted it again a couple of days later and then decided that nuclear weapons wouldn't contribute to the war effort and farmed out "research" to the Reich Research Council in January '42, with an ever-decreasing number of scientists working on it thereafter.
    In June '42 nuclear research was directed solely toward production of power, not weapons.
    They hadn't even completed isotope separation by the war's end.
    To claim that Germany was ahead is not only laughably ignorant it's verging on outright lying.
    They were well behind the Allies.
     
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  5. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    But they were not the ones to create the first atomic bomb.
     
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  7. river

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    they might have been though , speculation by Joseph P. Farrell in his book , Reich of the Black Sun

    and further in 1945 the U-234 had 560kilograms of Uranium Oxide ,in gold lined cylinders , thus implying highly enriched uraniumU235 and was captured by the U.S.
     
  8. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, you "read books 'outside the box' " and then thrive on speculation. Ugh! I also figure that statement about U-235 was found in that same goofy book. Double-ugh!
     
  9. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    As you've been told before: Farrell is a nutcase.
    His "speculations" are better termed flights of fancy.

    So what?
    The uranium oxide does not imply "highly enriched U-235" - it's 98% U-238 - NOT enriched, not U-235 and not weapons grade or anywhere near). It was more than likely intended for use as a catalyst for the production of methanol aircraft fuel.
     
  10. river

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    I will leave you with your naive knowledge

    Good day
     
  11. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Ooh, stunning reply.
    At least what I have is knowledge, as opposed to subscribing to the maunderings of some conspiracy-theorist nutcase with no evidence. (And ignoring reality).
     
  12. river

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    So what is your " nut case " evaluation of him based on ?
     
  13. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    How many times do we have to go through this?
    It's based on the fact that he makes sh*t up, he extrapolates in unjustified ways, he accepts rumour (and misdirection) as fact (when he's not simply inventing crap of his own).
    He's clueless about science and he's a conspiracy theorist.
     
  14. river

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    your information is based on what source ?
     
  15. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    I've read his f*cking books!
    You've been told this, time and time and time again.
     
  16. river

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    yeah , well which post is it that you said so because I don't recall any pronouncement by you having done so

    and which book(s) and what page exactly do have a problem with
     
  17. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    It wasn't in this thread. (And the search facility seems to have disappeared, although the problem here isn't me finding the relevant post but rather your abysmal - or highly selective - memory).
    But I have - at least THREE TIMES - given you a list of authors that I've read on woo subjects.
    (I specifically mentioned Farrell in the thread with the rubbish you posted about T. T. Brown's claims for example).

    Oh, FFS.
    All of his books.
    Which part of "he makes sh*t up, he extrapolates in unjustified ways, he accepts rumour (and misdirection) as fact" do you not comprehend?
    The vast MAJORITY of ALL of his books are predicated on utter non-factual crap.
     
  18. river

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    who says his facts are " crap " ?
     
  19. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Reality.
    Science.
    Actual history.
    Me.
    Anyone else with a working brain.
     
  20. river

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    so are you saying that the capture or surrender of U-234 never happened ?
     
  21. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Dear god.
    Are you incapable of reading?
    That is NOT what I'm denying.
    As CLEARLY stated in my post #26 the claims made by Farrell about what was found in U-234 are false.
    At no time have I said, or even indicated, that everything in his books are crap, simply that, (and I'll repeat it again): he makes sh*t up, he extrapolates in unjustified ways, he accepts rumour (and misdirection) as fact.
    Next you'll be accusing me of saying WWII didn't happen.
     
  22. river

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    why do you think he was wrong about what was found in U-234 ?
     
  23. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Ho hum...
    Which part of post #26 did you not understand?
    Uranium oxide is nothing but processed uranium ore: i.e. it's dug out of the ground and then had the general crap that isn't uranium taken out of it.
    It's no more "weapons grade" than iron oxide is a finished garden gate.
     

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