George Floyd trial,could you make a case for the defendant not being guilty of the charges?

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Two days.

 

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Put me down for 1 or 4

1 we already made up our minds over the weekend

4 we have a hold out

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He was not told to stick his hands out of the window, he was told to exit the vehicle. That's resistance, in a felony stop with heavily tinted windows.
One cop was fired to appease the mob.

That's exactly what he said on cross, same as direct, you just didn't managed to notice the prosecution trying to reframe his answers. Like I said, you're easily duped.

No, the threat was from the hostile crowd, which was taking up a significant part of the officers' attention, including the one across the street, as he testified. What, members of the angry crowd who exasperated the problem put all the blame on the police? Who'd a thunk it?

He did not comply with repeated orders to exit the vehicle. That's resisting. Well-lit area or not, the tint on the vehicle was still enough that they couldn't see the paper tag in the window, much less his race (couldn't be racial profiling), other possible occupants, weapons, etc.. The officer was fired as a political ploy to appease the mob. Much like firing the city manager who said the officer who shot Daunte Wright should get due process.

Then they should quit resisting legal orders from police, just like Nazario did. So anyone who gets fired must be in the wrong? Every firing is completely justified? That's pretty naive.

That's literally the defense's job. To introduce any and all available reasonable doubt and see which one adheres to which jurors. Your incredulity implies you don't understand the basics of criminal trials.

It's not his character, it's his actions and pattern of behavior. No one has said Floyd was an evil man.

You've proven your opinions to be worthlessly void of facts.

I'm sure they did, until he repeatedly refused to follow orders, which is resisting. A cop facing a heavily tinted vehicle has to wonder what he's trying to hide by not complying. It's a matter of their training and survival.

 

He dragged him out of the car? They couldn't get him to stay in the car. Black supremacists have to keep up the black thing I guess. You do that well.

 

Are you saying that he said that he couldn't breath even before the officer put his knee on him?

 

He behaved in the same fashion in this 2019 video.

 

Except for the video showing a guy being held back and a guy yelling "I swear I'll slap the f*** out of both of you". You must have missed those.
Not to mention all the officers, including the one across the street, and the EMTs all determining it was an unsafe scene.

"Refused?" Where's you're evidence of that?

Norton, the fire department EMT, told attorneys that when he arrived he began looking for the person he was called to help. He entered Cup Foods — the store where the 911 call had first been initiated — and had a brief exchange with people in the store.

He then received word from dispatchers that paramedics were in the ambulance several blocks away. Norton told attorneys that he arrived at the ambulance at about 8:37 p.m. — roughly 11 minutes after paramedics had requested backup medical help.
https://apnews.com/article/how-long...george-floyd-4311fb3090f071c5c2f838a6f14e5d58​

No mention of the fire department EMT having any interaction with police on the scene.

Unless locked in a car, or a cell within the police facilities, arrestees are never left unguarded, and with a potentially unsafe scene, physical contact was necessary to allow situational awareness of the crowd. This is all very basic stuff.

Okay, which officer? At what timestamp in the full body cam video? www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkEGGLu_fNU
Oh wait, you prefer to watch low quality and obscured cctv footage with wholly speculative commentary...and zero audio.

Another lie, or you're just ignorant of the truth.

Fact check: Derek Chauvin did not have hand in his pocket while kneeling on George Floyd
While a quick look at the image gives the impression Chauvin's left hand was in his pocket, a closer inspection of the image and review of video footage shows Chauvin is wearing dark colored gloves, which have blended in with his black uniform pants.​

You mean other than all the ignorant bullshit you're spinning to condemn him?
Check the video again: www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkEGGLu_fNU

When Floyd comes out the other side, it's with a force (quickly slammed into Chauvin's body cam) that a 180lb Chauvin couldn't have pulled the 220lb Floyd, especially when the video shows Chauvin didn't have a grip on him at the time. The only likely scenario being that Floyd shoved himself back against Chauvin, still attempting to keep from being locked in the car.

Defending a police officer with the facts doesn't make someone white supremacist. You presuming it does, based on nothing but the defender's race, does make you the racist. I suppose you think this is a racist too: https://twitter.com/realcandaceo/status/1370136836891377665

See your aforementioned penchant for crappy, obscured, and edited video over the full body cam footage.
You have to work real hard to avoid things that may contradict what you imagine happened.

I have a problem with anyone slandering others, e.g. "white supremacists" or "supporting police killing black people", based solely on the color of their skin. You know, being a piece of shit racist.
If it isn't based solely on the color of their skin, what is it? Just disagreeing with you makes someone a racist?

Nope, you literally outed yourself as a racist here:

 

His own worst enemy

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I don't think that something to smile/be happy about. Self-destructive behavior is pretty sad, IMO.

 

Correction, Ahmad Al Aliwi Al-Issa was a Syrian Muslim, not white. And he surrendered, after being shot in the leg, and did not resist after being taken into custody.
Compare that to a man, of any color, who resisted showing his hands, getting out of the vehicle, being cuffed, and being put in a squad car, while having heart disease, severely occluded major arteries, three times the lethal dose of fentanyl, and had already overdosed twice on similar drugs.

 

Yet Trump was accused of racism for suspending entry into the US from Arab countries (so called Muslim ban), including Syria.

Several scholars consider Islamophobia to be a form of xenophobia or racism. A 2007 article in Journal of Sociology defines Islamophobia as anti-Muslim racism and a continuation of anti-Asian, anti-Turkic and anti-Arab racism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia#Racism​

And many Arabs do not consider themselves white:
https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-census-middle-east-north-africa-race/
https://apnews.com/article/a25b5d977a5049d6a9038a536cc7129a

Officer was obviously in the line of fire, likely couldn't bring a weapon to bear, and we don't see what happens when the guy is taken into custody. If an officer had a clear shot, while the man was a threat, they would have been justified in taking it. Floyd wasn't shot or tased either.

So an officer protectively standing between Chauvin and the crowd and Chauvin pulling out his mace is completely casual?
Again, did you see the man being held back and hear the guy say "I swear I'll slap the f*** out of both of you"?
Did you hear the trial testimony from both the paramedic and the officer across the street both saying the scene was not safe?

After the ambulance had left with Floyd. That's not when the officers and ambulance crew considering the scene too unsafe to treat Floyd on site.
The fire department wasn't dispatched until 2 minutes after they loaded Floyd into the ambulance and left. https://apnews.com/article/how-long...george-floyd-4311fb3090f071c5c2f838a6f14e5d58

Did the officers even know where the ambulance was? How could they know it stop several blocks away? The fire dept EMT only found that out from the dispatcher. https://apnews.com/article/how-long...george-floyd-4311fb3090f071c5c2f838a6f14e5d58

Ahem, you're the one who has proven not to be aware of the facts behind at least half your claims.

What kind of bullshit non sequitur is this?
The motorcyclist hadn't been taken into custody, wasn't an "arrestee", and barring any other info, that cop wrongly detained the filming man.
Try to find something that actually fits what I said next time.

To pull him into the car, not out of it. Floyd pushed out the other side and immediately asked to be laid on the ground. Try watching the video with both eyes and the sound on next time.

Both already refuted.

You should ask yourself that question.

 

Like paramedics, police do not render aid in an unsafe environment.

No, his hands on his legs had nothing to do with whether he's guilty of any of the charges. Why on Earth would it?
Try to make sense, please.

Yes.

Criminal complaints are only alleged facts. Hence the due process.

At 9:50 in that video, Chauvin only has one hand on Floyd. Are you saying the 180lb Chauvin yanked the 220lb Floyd that hard with one hand?
And then immediately lost any grip of Floyd? Man, the mental gymnastics you put yourself through. Chauvin must be super human, huh?

You didn't answer the question. Is she a racist too? If not, then it's obvious you are, as you apply that to people based solely on their skin color. If she is, how? If you're not a vile, hypocritical racist, that should be a simple question to answer. And if you avoid it, you've proven yourself a racist.

Try something other than an opinion piece next time.
Also, try learning the difference between a medical finding of homicide and the criminal charge of homicide. Two different things, and the former doesn't necessarily equate to the latter.

No, it doesn't, as already refuted.

If that's your evidence for racism, you have nothing but your own fevered imagination. I never complained about anything but the hasty generalization of everyone flying the Confederate flag being a racist. And you being a foreigner directly speaks to you having no clue about how actual southerners feel.

Quit lying. You were making the hasty generalization that "one is usually accompanied by the other", and I called out your dishonest cherry-picking.

No, it was a bunch of people, discussing their views on the facts of the case. You could have been just another one of those people, if you hadn't exposed your racism by making it about the race of those in the conversation. That makes you a bad person.

 

Don't you find it questionable that he is saying "get up and get in the car" for the recording while he has his knee on the victim's neck preventing him from getting up?

 

I mean you don't like it when I refer to something as the black thing (quite rightly, I did it on purpose) but you throw the white supremacist thing around quite easily. Not just in general but you have no problem labeling everyone you disagree with that way. You know, that's your black thing I guess.

It's all about skin color after all, right? So everything you do must be a black thing. I mean, because you're black. Should we refer to you as the black moderator. Your opinions are what? Black opinions? Aren't you tired of throwing these terms around?