Free energy

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  1. Blue_UK Drifting Mind Valued Senior Member

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    I cannot believe that people are actually entertaining this conversation
     
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  3. crazeeeeeem Registered Senior Member

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    I cant believe you are not entertaining this. There proof is clear
     
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  5. guthrie paradox generator Registered Senior Member

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    Proof of what?
     
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  7. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    There? Where?
     
  8. crazeeeeeem Registered Senior Member

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    Riigggght..... Well guess you wont know for sure until you get all of us into the same room. Why not do that? I am willing if you are.

    The world is full of dangerous people. You only get to meet them when they want something.
     
  9. Xpandngreal8y Registered Member

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    I would just like to say that i am not opposed to finding zero point energy. The argument that energy can be created nor destroyed really isnt valid here because your wouldnt be creating energy just moving it from one place to another..

    I have always dreamed of an energy source that was not dependent on on other "active" energy sources, such as the earths magnetic field, solar, wind, otherwise.. but one that relies on simple fuel such as waste by-products recycled from items that we use every day or a readily and abundantly available fuel source such as garbage, seawater, possibly even the air we breathe ? anyways, i dont have much education along these lines.. or any for that matter, but hey, i am not trying to profit here.. just trying to get the ideas and minds of those who could actually figure something like this out flowing in a new direction any thoughts ?

    i started a new thread to open up discussion along these lines but i cant post a link yet

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  10. crazeeeeeem Registered Senior Member

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    I know that superconductor based energy systems, anecdotally called free energy exists. And this because some people jumped when i started publicising it.

    The facts are available to anyone should they look around them more closely. Why a superconductor? Well it has no resistance. So its quite easy to imagine a superconductor ring conducting an electromagnetic pulse. Since its a ring, shouldnt the pulse continue for some time?
     
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    Superconductor systems are NEVER refered to as free-energy devices! Where did you pick up that bit of nonsense??????? They are expensive energy-storage devices, nothing more, and the energy induced into them is generated by conventional means.

    Again I ask: do you know ANYTHING at all about basic physics - or are you just making it up as you go along???
     
  12. weed_eater_guy It ain't broke, don't fix it! Registered Senior Member

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    I had a revelation...

    You know how some people talk, like, alot. Like yak-yak-yak-yak-yak and they just will not shut up? That's free energy. Put a generator to that person's jaw and they may be able to light up your local neighborhood! And the energy is free! Free energy! Free energy! Now please don't tell too many people, the G-men might come to my home and put poison in my food! But at the same time, the world must hear of my revolution, so I will make a website that the whole freaking world can see! That makes perfect sence! Free energy! Imagine, dream, of free energy! OMGweeeeeeeeee, free energy!
     
  13. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    ^^ Plug that man in!
     
  14. crazeeeeeem Registered Senior Member

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    Knee jerk!
     
  15. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    I work with superconductors and studied them in graduate-level university classes. I am not aware of how they could be used to generate free energy. Yes, a pulse of electrical current will travel through a superconducting loop forever if you leave it alone - but if you try to extract energy from it the pulse will slow.
     
  16. andbna Registered Senior Member

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    Indeed, a superconductor carrying a pulse can be thought of much like a satellite orbiting a planet (eg the moon orbiting earth.)
    Sure you have a nice amount of kinteic energy not going anywhere, but its not free. If we try to extract this energy what happens? The orbit decays to the point where the satellite crashes into the planet it was orbiting.

    Similarily, any attempts to extract energy from the pulse will induce resistance on our superconductor. In order for us to get energy from the pulse, the pulse must do work. If the pulse does work it slows down. If it keeps doing work, it eventualy stops. Now we need a new pulse, which requires energy to be put back into the system. Thus we gained nothing. (Infact, we problably lost some energy since our system wont be perfect and thus energy will escape as heat for example.)

    -Andrew
     
  17. Blue_UK Drifting Mind Valued Senior Member

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    What these scientifically-illiterate nutters seem to miss is that their theories would surely have been picked up by someone else if they had any truth in them. Especially when they're very simple .
     
  18. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Right. It's only because they've learned a little science (VERY little, indeed!!) and now think that's all they have to know. Sad, pitiful, and pathetic, really.
     
  19. Xpandngreal8y Registered Member

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  20. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    Indeed. These people presumably are aware that there are specialists who spend decades studying these topics. Why oh why would someone think that they could read a few web pages or pop-sci books about a subject and come up with ideas that the experts missed? Sure, it’s theoretically possible that it could happen, but any thinking person should realize that the odds of it happening are very close to zero.
     
  21. Xpandngreal8y Registered Member

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    yeah sure.. like splitting water into hydrogen.. i had that friggin idea by myself in the 7th grade.. (i have only a high school education.. some of our greatest thinkers didnt even have that) its been being done for 40 years.. do it too well and your dead.. lol

    I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE OPEN TO NEW IDEAS NO MATTER WHO THEY COME FROM , IF ITS TOO FRUSTRATING FOR SOME OF THEN YOU GO TO ANOTHER POST..
     
  22. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Really? Even when it's something very old and well understood like your hydrolysis idea? Or even worse, when it's something totally stupid that they will spend a lot of time and effort on rather than being told (and with an explanation given) it's a red herring????

    You would be doing them both an injustice and disservice. Much better to help them by telling them the truth.
     
  23. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not sure what you mean here. I actually almost used this as an example of one of the common ideas that people seem to "discover" and them make a big deal over. Lots of people seem to think that you can use electrolysis to split water, then burn the H2 and O2 to get back more energy than you put into making it. For some reason it never occurs to them that if it were possible, people would probably be doing it already.
     
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