Franken Wins! (Now what?)

I mean, maybe you have a different assessment, but ....

Can I field this one, String? Please?

I would go with the chicken-hawk cartoon and the bit when he points out that Communism is in the Bible (Acts 4.32-ff, to be exact).

 

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Tiassa: "Would it be inappropriate to point out how vanilla..."

Not just vanilla. Fortified, Pasteurized, homogenized, preserved, and sealed for your protection.

"Communism is in the Bible"

You had to come out and say it, didn't you. As usual, that's it.

What am I supposed to say now.

"Reported."

:bawl:

 

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I agree. It's also why some argue that the Republicans are a much more effective party. When they're the majority they bully things through, and when they're the minority they fillabuster things to death.

I'm a liberal, not a Democrat, and while I appreciate the diversity of individuals who make up the Left, I do wish there was a little more unity in the party because they service my moral outlook and political opinions more than the covservatives do.

 

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LOL that was good!

 

So the Democrats now have (in theory anyway) absolute control of the federal government. The only real limits on their power are the few conservative Democrats and the fact that two of their Senators are very sick and unlikely to show up for most votes.

While this is a great possition for them to be in, it has its hazards. The most obvious peril is that they will over reach. The more liberal members of the Senate, long held in check by the fact that they lacked the numbers to kill a fillibuster, may well feel their oats. They, acting in concert with president Obama's race to the left, may push too hard too fast and provoke a backlash.

One things for sure, whatever happens from here on out, it's all on the Democrats.

 

Do any of your posts not read like drug-addled rants?

 

Unless something good happens, in which case you'll either find a way to credit the Republicans for it, or you'll flat-out deny that any good happened in the first place.

 

It really doesn't matter, the same financial powers control both parties.

 

Kennedy's one. Who's the other?

~String

 

I didn't say he was a leftist. I said he was left of center. As in, left of the American center. I expect that he'll be a reasonably intelligent politician. Actors generally adapt to the game better than anybody else.

His stance on a number of things like universal health care, socialism, gay rights, etc. put him squarely left of the American center.

Is he a commie? I don't know. But he's more of a commie than, say, Mitt Romney his anitpode.

~String

 

When Jesus is speaking of how a rich man is less likely to go into heaven then to get a camel through the eye of a needle, that pretty communist in weird theological sort of way, pointing that out does not make you a communist.

 

I think the danger is the opposite. They will wimp out and not use their clear mandate to do anything special.

 

I'm not sure I believe that. While the Democrats sweeping into power is less dramatic--somehow--than the '94 "Republican Revolution", it will take bit of doing to get the government moving in their direction. [insert metaphor about turning an oil tanker at sea here]

I have a standing bet with my father about socialized medicine by the time Obama leaves office... in 8 years. (he thinks Obama will not be re-elected and that we won't have universal health care... I disagree)

We'll see.

~String

 

Didn't you also bet him that the Democrats would pick up seats in 2010? No offense, but I sure hope you lose all these bets!

Robert Byrd:

June 30, 2009, 1:49 pm
Senator Byrd Released From Hospital
By Kate Phillips
Robert C. Byrd

After several weeks of hospitalization with a staph infection and recurring fevers, Senator Robert C. Byrd has been released and is recuperating at home, his office announced in a statement today.

The West Virginian Democrat, who turns 92 later this year and is the longest-serving senator, will continue to receive physical therapy at home. “I am pleased to be home in anticipation of celebrating our Nation’s birthday with my loving family,” his statement read. “I also thank everyone who sent me their good wishes and prayers.”

His office had been sending out weekly notices that he would not be returning to the Senate as he remained under treatment for a staph infection he had contracted while receiving medical care for another minor infection at an undisclosed hospital. In recent months, the senator’s health has suffered a number of setbacks. [Clarification: Earlier hospitalizations occurred in February and again in March of last year, not this year.]

His absence has been acutely felt on some close votes in the Senate, particularly those procedural ones needing 60 to avert filibusters. With both he and Senator Edward M. Kennedy absent because of his battle with brain cancer, the Democratic leadership has struggled on various issues to muster that tally.

Mr. Byrd’s office did not indicate when he was expected to return to the Senate. ​

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/30/senator-byrd-released-from-hospital/

That's the sort of communism that can work. A small, close knit group of true believers. Jesus was also adamently against the unification of government and the church as evidenced by his render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's statement.

 

Well, honestly, I can't see much of a difference anymore. One party was bankrupting the country with ridiculous military expenditures. The other is doing the same but with social programs. I have little hope for a bright future.

I have brochures for land in Chile. I'm retiring there. Maybe I can weather the storm there when I'm old.

Oh YEAHHHHHHH! He's older than dirt.

~String

 

It's likely that Franken will avoid the centrist bandwagon

I would agree that pointing it out doesn't make one a communist. However, it's not an aspect of the Bible religious conservatives (who are anti-communist) make a point of, and even the "liberalism", such as it is, of the Democratic Party doesn't make the point.

The fact that Franken made the point—one the nation badly needs to understand—at all suggests that he is, to borrow String's term, at least left of center.

Plus, he's had five months to watch Obama in action and gauge the response. If he has a even a single brain cell operating in a political context, he has to be aware that the president's centrist overdose is starting to bring a backlash from Democratic supporters who voted for a change in the way federal politics are played. He would be wasting his election to simply hop on the centrist bandwagon.

 

Indeed. It seems that most of the Democratic voters are a little perplexed by Obama's inaction on their platform. Moreover, Franken is from one of the more liberal states in the Union. He has to cater to that fact. As a liberal, his seat is a bit more secure than it would be if he were from Alabama, but he still has to represent them in a way that they expect.

~String

 

its is a good point to make when you want to make the conservatives look laughably hypocritical, which as a political comedian he made a living off of.
So its a fallacy to assume that him making the point has any reference to his political leaning, other then that he likes to mock conservatives of course.

So your saying he is a democrat? wow I could have told you that. His stance on universal health care ins a interesting one, though hes does not openly state it he is against single payer health care (as from what I interpreted from my discussions with him), not a good sign if you want to even suggest he is a communist.

 

Who suggested that he was a communist? I think he's a liberal and a Democrat. None of these things are necessarily a bad thing. In fact, I think if you asked him, he'd describe himself as a consummate "liberal progressive" because, well, that's what he is. Generally, modern Democrats and other American liberals tend to have a bit more in common with socialists than Republicans do. Having some traits in common with socialists/communists does not a communist make him.

~String

 

your were suggesting the possibility in a early post.