Dave Just an idea that might help with Sciforums funding. If you attach a linked web page that is devoted to sponsors that members can place advetisements in at a small cost it may help with the funding shortfalls. For example I would be happy to place an advertisment at a nominal cost on such a page and I am sure other members would like to do so also. It could be a sub forum in the admin section or a separate web linked by banner ads throughout sciforums. A Member sponsorship page might help. what do you think?