First of all, the guys a scumbag. But with that said, didn't all this coorespondence occur after the teens left the page program? Doesn't sexual harrassment only apply to employer/employee situations or perhaps teacher/student? Otherwise, it's just a scumbag trolling for teen-age tail, but not sexual harrassment.
If we allow the law to be subverted with angry, emotional accusations, why have laws? Why not just have vigilante justice for everyone ...whoever is the most angry, or rants the loudest, is permitted to hang or crucify the accused? Most of y'all have recently screamed and yelled and demanded the "equal rights under the law" for the terrorists at Gitmo, yet here ye're actually calling for Foley's punishment without any benefit to those same "equal rights under the law". Correct me if I'm wrong, but ain't that being a fuckin' hippo-crite? Again, under the law, which we pretend to hold so dear, what law did Foley violate? Baron Max
Terrorists and terrorist suspects are NOT citizens of the US!! That's a big, big difference ...US laws are for US citizens. I'm not defending Foley or his actions, I'm defending his rights under the law. If y'all can't see that, then there's something bad, bad wrong with you. Or would you have us replace the law with vigilante justice? Because that's what most of y'all seem to be indicating by your vengeful posts. Baron Max
Baron Max, most of these people are baby's they want what they want when they want it, to their specifications and prejudice, they want the law flexible to fit the need of the moment to back their prejudice, and consistency be dammed, they want the law to be as fixable as the rope they use in their lynching, to be used to allow their vigilante idea of justice, you can see this in their defense of Terrorist, as they want to flex the law's of the U.S. to cover terrorist, and ignore the Laws of the Military which are the domain of jurisdiction for these people, yes they are the perversion of Vigilante, no true justice.
I'm not a judge or lawyer, but Foley has possibly broken a law that he helped write regarding soliciting sex from minors. I'm not condemning him for the law, but for his immoral behavior. It doesn't take a judge to see that. Lying isn't illegal in most cases, either, but I would condemn someone for that too. Foley e-mails and PM's are not in dispute, and his reputation seems to have been known among some Republicans for some time.
Well, Jesus did have a lil' foot fetish, always liking to rub and wash their apostles feet. And he was, afterall, betrayed by a kiss. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Justice will happen. Just because we're talking about the issues doesn't mean he's going to be hung without trial. We're merely talking about the issue as we do with every freakin' event that happens in life! Humans are natural social gossip queens. The huge difference in this case though is that the guy admitted to what he was doing. Not only that, but he was the head guy that combats this type of behaviour. I'd say he's screwed. Now hey, that doesn't mean he will be as that's just my high probability opinion, because afterall, we all love drama. - N
Can you believe Fox labeled him a democrat ... twice? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Un-freaking-believable.
Well, I just heard on the evening news that neither the Justice Dept or the FBI can figure out what crime Foley has committed. And yet, in the media and here at sciforums, he's been crucified. Interesting, ain't it? In a nation that prides itself on our system of law and justice, and we happily go on resorting to vigilante justice .....even as we make silly-assed excuses for doing it. I'm not sure, but I think I'm pretty damned ashamed of how the news and some of y'all are talking ......and especially when some/most of y'all put up great arguments for giving the terrorists their "civil rights under the law". Can any of y'all spell "hippo-fuckin'-crit"? Baron Max
Can you explain how that matters? Is it OK to have a congressman hitting on 16 year old pages? ...and use alcohol as an excuse? Besides, the investigation has not even started.
Republicans can be child stalkers, I think Jesus allows this. Everyone else is prosecuted for sexually harrassing and stalking children. THAT part is in the bible.
Sure ..because under our system of justice and law, people of the USA are innocent until proven guilty. And isn't that what you erroneously tried to argue about the prisoners at Gitmo? So why have you changed your mind about that issue ....or is it only the Gitmo prisoners that you care about ...and anyone else can go fly a kite? I don't like it, Spider, but I also don't like the billions of porno websites on the Internet or the prevalence of prostitution and drugs on our streets. But it's not what I like or dislike, Spider, it's what the law of the land is ...not my own or your own vigilante justice. Or is that what you want? They've been working on that since Friday ....so with the legal experts at Justice and the FBI, you'd think that they'd have at least the possible crime that he's committed, wouldn't you? Baron Max
Oh, really???? And can you name any of those great and wonderous cases to which you allude? Please? Baron Max
I said it before but can you all IMAGINE if a DEMOCRAT was the one lusting for same sex teens!!! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Mother of God the Puritan Party would be on a jihad!! Calls for his castration would be announced by that fat guy that sits with Colmes! Ann Coulter and GW would urge GITMO as punishment!! Astonishing the brazen hypocrisy coming from the Party of God.
Did Clinton commit a crime by having Monica suck him off? I didn't think he was charged with a crime? Was he? Regardless, it was still wrong of him wasn't it? And that was two consenting adults. At that time the Republicans went ape shit. As a matter of fact they ran their election campaign on the premise they were going to bring dignity and trustworthiness back to the Government. Now we have a Republican Congressman who has admitted to trying to persuade a child, a child in his care, to suck him off and now it's simply naughty emails. Talk about hypocrites. As to the Guantanamo Bay inmates - the problem I have is simply with the WH trying to contravene the Geneva Conventions on Torture - a document that we helped write. Regardless, I fail to see the hypocrisy? Are we suggesting that Foley be tortured and the Inmates sent free? No we are not. So there is no hypocrisy. Lets stop with the Red Herring already. It's really quite simple. We think that Foley, along with anyone who covered for him (while he tried to get young male children working for him to suck his cock) step-down - simply on principal. I don’t know about you but I certainly don’t want those types of people running our government. Do you? If they are more than happy to overlook something this dastardly, something no one here disagrees as sick, perverted and horribly-wrong, then what else are these types of people willing to do to stay in power? As simple as that - they should step-down.
So you think sexually harrassing minors and stalking minors is an everyday legal thing that is no big deal?? NAMES!! Are you shitting me!! Go to www.thekansascitychannel.com and find some yourself. This stuff is all over the news. Stings luring perverts to children (undercover officers) etc. Wow Der Baron, you are quite the Sicko!! :bugeye:
Genji, it ain't got nothin' to do with Democrat or Republican. So quite trying to make it into a political bullshit argument! Did he commit a crime or not?! Please answer the fuckin' question or quit interjecting bullshit propaganda crap! Baron Max
Oh, god, you're so fucked up and ill-informed that it pains me to even respond!! Clinton was NOT charged with get Monica to suck him off, he was charge with lying to a grand jury .....and aquitted! And that's the way it should be ...according to the laws of the land. Haveing Monica suck his dick was not "wrong" according to the law! Was it wrong according to your sick, selfish ideals? Probably ...but who gives a shit about you? I don't either, but where YOU seem to want vigilante justice, I want justice according to the law. There's a big, big difference. I'd also say that Foley was duly elected to the congress by the people of his district ...don't you think that they should have more say in it than you? Baron Max
I would be shocked if it's legal for adults to sexually harrass minors. The real crime here is the RNC coverup. Hastert is goin down my brotha!
I don't want to talk to you any more, Genji, you're being totally ignorant. I do, however, applaud your ideals that seem to think vigilante justice is good. The Muslim terrorists think like that, too. Baron Max
