Floods

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  1. Gawdzilla Sama Registered Senior Member

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    As The Onion pointed out "Sumerians look on with puzzlement as God creates the Earth."
     
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  3. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    In Ethiopia they are building a huge dam and so Sudan is contemplating , Therefore for a period 6 or more months the Nile will less water.
     
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  5. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    We dismissed Troy as unreal until there was a reason to think it was real. We still dismiss the Greek gods as unreal because there is no reason to think they are real.
     
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  7. Gawdzilla Sama Registered Senior Member

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    And the involvement of gods and demi-gods didn't the credibility of the story. Not to mention that the location of a fortified city was about the only connection the story IRL.
     
  8. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Unless
    (of course)
    You adhere to euhemerism ................................
    and, then.........................................?
     
  9. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Catching up from behind, in orbit, slowed further by the moon, hitting in pieces - Deity arranged, after all.
    It's a worked out, multi-step theory - starting with a smaller but absorbent Earth, with of course specially created larger animals (less gravity) closer together on neighboring continents (not separated by modern oceans), inhabited by sinners (taller, longer lived sinners; less gravity). I'm thinking somebody with the necessary credentials in geology etc could pull a Behe here, pocket a few million dollars from the Republicans. They wouldn't even have to humiliate themselves on TV - just take on an impoverished post-doc to handle the promotional stuff as "co-author".
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    That doesn't make sense as written. Greenland rising after unburdening is a very slow process, and does not lower sea level or reduce the amount of water in the local sea. The water added from the melting ice has to go somewhere - into the local ocean, first, then downhill into the world's oceans.
    That would be one of the standard explanations of flood myths in places like North America - where huge meltwater lakes on the ice front several times drained in quite spectacular fashion during the time of probable human settlement (jökulhlaups) - although the area of the various Mediterranean flood stories would need different explanations. The possible sudden filling of the Black Sea from the Mediterranean seems to align with the Gilgamesh story, for example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis
     
  10. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    sculptor said:
    Added to which, we know that ice has a gravitational effect. It has been estimated that if the Greenland icecap were to melt, the loss of gravity would lower sea level around Greenland bu 1-3 meters.-----that water has to go somewhere else.

    see more at:
    http://sealevelstudy.org/sea-change-science/whats-in-a-number/attractive-ice-sheets
     
  11. Gawdzilla Sama Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, okay.
     
  12. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    [Hey, don't blame me, I didn't invent gravity...............I'm just trying to figure it out]
     
  13. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Correction.
    Ok. That was fun, thanks.
    http://science.sciencemag.org/content/323/5915/753 The original paper.
    https://gracefo.jpl.nasa.gov/science/sea-level/ A new data source.
    http://blogs.agu.org/wildwildscience/2016/07/21/gravity-greenland-dropping-no-really/ A movie of what's happening.
    http://www.catholic.org/news/green/story.php?id=71489 The other hemisphere takes the brunt (this also holds for Antarctic melting).

    Although as the behavior in cold water outflow zones suggests - not gravitational mass loss points, but such as southern Alaskan coastal areas or even the mouths of the Amazon - the shrinkage from cooling may be responsible for a fair amount of what is attributed in some of these sources to gravity alone (or other factors not mentioned).
     
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  14. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Why would we? It's an unnecessary assumption. Do we assume that Treasure Island is based on history and go looking for the gold?
     
  15. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    I Posted remarks similar to the following to another Thread.

    Villages have been discovered circa 200 feet below the current level of the Black Sea. Perhaps in the last 10-20 years: I am not sure when.

    It is known that the Black & Mediterranean Seas lose water by evaporation faster than replenishment via input from rivers & rainfall.​

    Water from the Atlantic maintains the current sea level.

    The discovery of those villages suggests that the Noah flood might be might be due to an oral tradition maintained & exaggerated over centuries after those villages were flooded.

    If there were no survivors from those villages, it is likely that villages on higher ground maintained the oral tradition.​
     
  16. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    How about as the ice in Greenland dissipate the the land increase in surface land , because the ice compressed the ground as the ice dissipate the ground rise
     
  17. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    An other way can be looked , Ice have a lower density ,as the ice melts the volume equivalent to ice decrease due the liquid have a higher density so not necessary the total volume have to increase.
    And as the ground of Greenland increase due to reduction on surface ice pressure the soil will absorb water which might be produce from the melt.
     
  18. Gawdzilla Sama Registered Senior Member

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    Help me out here, please. Are you arguing that the Noachian Flood actually happened?
     
  19. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    To whom are you directing your post ?
     
  20. Gawdzilla Sama Registered Senior Member

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    Eres tu.
     
  21. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    The proper way would be " contra ti "
    If you don't ignore post # 5 charts That should tell you something about the flood in that region.
     
  22. Gawdzilla Sama Registered Senior Member

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    Are you being evasive?
     
  23. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Evasive of what, the OP. is about flood.
     

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