Flat Earth

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by Seattle, Apr 24, 2017.

  1. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I know the theory of the Global Earth is more popular now than the Flat Earth theory but that doesn't mean that it's the correct theory.

    Do most people on here believe in the Global Earth theory? How many of you feel more comfortable with the Flat Earth theory?
     
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  3. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    Bored?
     
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  5. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I tend to favor the Flat Earth theory but I'm curious as to how many others feel similarly. Can I count you in?
     
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  7. DrKrettin Registered Senior Member

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    I'm pretty sure that the Earth is not exactly flat, but a little curved. However the curve is such that we are inside the curve, not on top. And I have irrefutable evidence for this: my walking boots are curved up at the toes, and the heels are worn down at the back.
     
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  8. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    There is a rather good sci-fi story about this called "Mission of Gravity" (Hal Clement), in which the variation of atmospheric density (I think) on a planet with very strong gravity creates the appearance of an elevated horizon. The inhabitants consequently think the planet is bowl-shaped.
     
  9. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Has anyone been to the Creation Museum (KY), or have wanted to check it out?
     
  10. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    How many Terry Pratchett books have you read please?

    Count me in? NO

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  11. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Not me

    Know about it, yes

    Like to go, yes

    Fear I would be thrown out for inappropriate laughing YES

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  12. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    No I live in the wrong country. The closest we get to this in the UK is the following rather sad little junk shop: http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/31d2c93af...ist-museum-in-the-uk-in-portsmouth-dn6t4j.jpg

    We simply don't have anything like the size of loony market that you have in the United States. But then, we exported all our 7th Day Adventists to you over a century ago, hahaha.

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  13. rpenner Fully Wired Staff Member

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    I thought the Creation Museum was run by a former Australian, Ken Ham? It's my last remaining genetic fallacy prejudice: Don't assume people from Queensland to be sane.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Ham

    But the topic here is the dilemma between flat earth cosmology and "globalist" cosmology, for they are mutually incompatible.

    NSFW: Flat Earth cosmologies fail to be scientific credible proposals for one important 300+ year-old reason (11 second video):

    h/t: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Flat_earth

    Yes, that's a very good point and when properly understood, a large part of the reason why either everything flat earthers propose is very wrong or everything "globalists" believe is very wrong.
     
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  14. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    There's another one called Endgame Enigma by Hogan that does something similar. Two spies are captured and taken to a space station. They know they are on a space station because the corridors curve even though they are always level at any given spot. But then they look more closely, and realize that the angular speed doesn't match up to the apparent gravity - and they realize they are on a spinning mockup on Earth. (This ends up being important to the plot.)
     
  15. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    I googled Global Theory and it has nothing to do with whether or not the earth is flat.
     
  16. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps prior to the internet, there was a Flat Earth Society run by some Englishmen with a sense of humour. They had a delightful artist's sketch of the flat Earth.

    It was a circular disk with Europe in the center & West Africa hanging over the edge perpendicular to the rest of that continent.

    There were black Stalactites hanging underneath.

    I have not been able to find this sketch.

    They were affluent. They sent circa $100.00 to an American astronaut for trick photography. He photographed the Earth from a satellite. They made the following comment
     
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  17. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Who said anything about "Global Theory"? I said Global Earth Theory.
     
  18. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Still has little to do with flat earth.
     
  19. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I made it up, how can it have nothing to do with it?
     
  20. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    That's exactly how. When you make things up, you can't just expect people to know what you mean.

    Just call it the Round Earth Theory.
     
  21. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    First, the inference about the universe being a two-dimensional hologram needs more evidence. Even then, a pancake view would probably be a matter of context / thought-perspective at best, rather than absolute (ubiquitous range of applicability).

    ;-)
     
  22. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    Nope - round and flat are not mutually exclusive. A disc is round and flat.
     
  23. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    From Seattle Posts 1 &3
    The above indicates that you consider science to relate to a popularity contest or a matter to be determined by majority vote.

    I wonder how old you are & how much science education you have.​

    Even a thousand or more years ago, sailors & people who lived on the coast of an ocean able to watch ships knew the Earth was not flat, although they might not have visualized a spherical shape.

    Only folks living in inland areas like Kansas believed in a flat Earth​

    A sailor approaching a mountain would see the peak first followed by a view of more & more of the mountain.

    A person on the coast would see the tallest part of a ship first.​

    BTW: The Salt Flats in western USA are interesting. When standing in a region near the center, every part of the horizon seems lower although locally you seem to be on a flat surface. The view from there seems to suggest a spherical Earth. Perhaps my perception was biased due to my knowledge of the spherical shape of the Earth, but I do not think my notion was biased by that knowledge.
     

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