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Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by R1D2, Jan 15, 2013.

  1. R1D2 many leagues under the sea. Valued Senior Member

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    I see nothing wrong with fishing. But is it ethical to fish to you?
    Do you find anything wrong with fishing?
     
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  3. Nom-De-Plume "Give him a mask ... " Registered Member

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    In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with it if:
    • You're going to eat the fish,
    • You're going to sell the fish (to be eaten),
    • You throw back baby fish (after giving them a kiss

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    • You aren't killing to eat, but because the fish is a pest.
     
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  5. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    my husband and daughter fish almost every day in the summer. She's been better at it than most of his friends since she was in grade school
     
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  7. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    And that answers if its ethical how?
     
  8. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    If it was unethical I wouldn't allow it
     
  9. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    Wow circular logic much?
    It's ethical because you allow your daughter to do it so it must be ethical.

    What makes you qualified to determine the ethical right or wrong of a situation? After all Bundy probably belived hunting humans was ethical too.

    I'm not saying its not ethical to fish but to make a proper argument your going to need to do a lot better than that
     
  10. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    No, I don't think its unethical to fish and/or eat them.
     
  11. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Outside of the torture and killing-for-fun aspect, nothing at all.
     
  12. Buddha12 Valued Senior Member

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    Depends upon the types of fish that you are fishing for. If you know that a certain species of fish is threatened or on the endangered species list then you should not be fishing for that type of fish. However if the fish you want to catch are plentiful then by all means fish away. Just remember to limit the amount of fish you catch to that of what you can eat and not overfish to cause others not to find many fish to catch. One more note, throw the smaller fish back to allow them time to increase in size. If you follow those simple, logical rules then I see no problems with fishing.
     
  13. R1D2 many leagues under the sea. Valued Senior Member

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    SO I'd say mounting a prize catch don't seem acceptable to some here. Or participating in fishing derbys.
     
  14. Buddha12 Valued Senior Member

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    You can go to any taxidermist and they will sell you anything that you'd like to have because all they do is make coipies of the animals by making a fiberglass mold and painting it to resemble the animal that you caught, killed or found. They will sell you anything that you want to hang up in your home or business because they don't need the actual animal but only what it looked like. They never make a mounting of any animal that was alive, only replicas of them.
     
  15. R1D2 many leagues under the sea. Valued Senior Member

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    they didn't use fiberglass years ago. And some still don't.
     
  16. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Or you could get one of those plastic fish on a plaque that turn toward the observer and sing.
     
  17. R1D2 many leagues under the sea. Valued Senior Member

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    I wish I could go everyday. I don't see anything unethical about this comment. So does she like bass fishing? What kinds does they fish for?
    I have not seen one of those in a while. The last one I seen, sang don't worry be happy.
     
  18. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    we sent her to fish camp, where she was the only girl. She was also the only one who caught a bass. Her father and her have also done a lot of bonding during fishing, the same way my bothers bonded with my dad while hunting.
    If she caught a really huge fish we would have it mounted (but not that huge catfish she caught, that went back)
     
  19. Buddha12 Valued Senior Member

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    Many companies produce stock forms in various sizes. Glass eyes are then usually added to the display, and in some cases, artificial teeth, jaws, tongue, or for some birds, artificial beaks and legs can be used.
     
  20. milkweed Valued Senior Member

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    Here is an ethics issue related to fishing. I help bring in injured wildlife, mostly birds from both MN and WISC. From May through Sept most birds are injured via electric wire hits/car collisions and disease but come fall is when we see the lead poisoning, lasting usually until the northern push of the waterfowl ends in the spring. Drought increases the risk of the birds picking up lead sinkers. Sinkers have been documented in many birds including swans and eagles.
    Proof:
    http://raptoreducationgroup.blogspot.com/2010/04/possible-lead-sinker-ban-in-state-of-wi.html

    I've gone on rescues with Barry:
    http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/01/17/recovering-swan-population-threatened-by-lead-poisoning/

    There have been attempts to ban lead shot for all hunting and ban lead sinkers. Eagles (and others) are picking up lead from gut piles. Some testing on pheasants and turkey has found elevated lead in hunted areas, with the birds picking it up pecking the ground.

    Anyways, I strongly encourage those who fish to swap out their lead tackle for safer steel. Often by the time a swan/eagle is noticeably sick from lead (and sick enough to be captured), the damage is irreversible. Kidney failure, brain damage, liver damage are all real effects. Plus there is strong indications of lasting fertility effects.
     
  21. R1D2 many leagues under the sea. Valued Senior Member

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    Yes I have heard of this issue. I have switched to steel sinkers, and mostly copper ammunition. Very good for you to bring this up, thanks. .
     
  22. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    huh, I'll have to ask my husband what he uses. Thanks for the info milkweed.
     
  23. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Ethical Fishing Practices
    1. All fish caught are consumed or released without irreparable harm
    2. Fish are caught in a method that does not cause collateral damage to other species and the environment
    3. Fish are caught humanely (e.g. no snagging)
    4. Limited Amounts are caught & consumed so as not to endanger the fish species
    5. Bio friendly materials are used (e.g. bio degradable cages used in crab fishing)
     

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