First Transracial Senator?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Capracus, Mar 12, 2018.

  1. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    That is hardly unusual. Including it in a paragraph that leads with, "That said, the ancestral stories are at times quite surprising", seems a bit ... er ... ah ... what's the word? ... desperate.
     
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  3. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    #whitesupremacism | #WhatTheyVotedFor

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    No, actually, you're not, and the lie is apparent in that same post:

    Indeed, this is really important to you:

    I would suggest saying thank you to a woman named Henrietta Lacks, but you can't, because she's dead. Still, though, you ought to take a moment to thank the woman whose genes were exploited quite literally for decades, and there are millions of cancer survivors whose lives owe honor unto her name.

    Spoiler alert: She was black.

    Plot twist: Her blackness is beside the point.

    "Why do suppose there are occupations and fields of study devoted to the practice?" Well, when it comes to genetics, there is money in it; if there wasn't, there wouldn't be much study. But the big money isn't in the ancestry buzz industry fleecing racists; the big money is in the database of information people are irresponsibly signing over. Someday, the actuarials will die in overdose of bliss and ecstasy using that information to refuse people access to health care, but even more important in the moment is the medical value. When it comes to genetics, the real value will be in overpriced lifesaving technologies. As to genetic identity as an industry, yes, you're right, there are a lot of racists ready to fret about this stuff; that these are your priority doesn't really amaze me, as your sympathy for supremacists is pretty well established.

    Meanwhile, here we are, months later, and as much as I think it's a bad idea, this is one of the occasions when doing it for the money can actually be useful. And now that Senator Warren has compromised and will release the evidence, the question remains whether those making such demands will now pursue, with equal vigor, President Trump's one million dollar payoff to the National Indigenous Women's Resource Center. Or perhaps they will skip out, or maybe halfass it, and prove this was about white supremacism the whole time.
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    @elizabethforma. "By the way, @realDonaldTrump: Remember saying on 7/5 that you’d give $1M to a charity of my choice if my DNA showed Native American ancestry? I remember – and here's the verdict. Please send the check to the National Indigenous Women’s Resource Center". Twitter. 15 October 2018. Twitter.com. http://bit.ly/2RQypRZ
     
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  5. Capracus Valued Senior Member

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    I could give a rats ass how you want to spin this to promote your particular social agenda, but don't pretend you are in any way qualified to understand my motives in this matter. I've made my position perfectly clear, and apparently Elizabeth Warren recognized the wisdom of that position. She has taken a big step in silencing her detractors and bolstering her support from the native community and people like me who wanted her to maximize her appeal to the greater electorate. I hope she runs, because at this point I can see no one better qualified to hold the office than her. I'm really exited over this news.
     
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  7. Capracus Valued Senior Member

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    Eat fucking crow you orange jackass.

     
  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    "Oh, uh, yeah. Well, uh - I never said I would pay her! Yeah, that's it. It's fake news. And besides, she's not ENOUGH of a Native American! She's only, like, a small percentage. And how do they know, anyway? Science? Science said the Earth was flat."
     
  9. Neddy Bate Valued Senior Member

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    His actual response was, "Who cares?" And as could have been predicted, trump supporters / republicans are saying that this only proves that the "vast majority" of her ancestry is European. Sigh.
     
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  10. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Then don't pretend anything you have to say should ever be taken as genuine.
     
  11. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    No.
    There was no wisdom to recognize. That wasn't wisdom.
    She did what she had to, in dealing with the bigoted shitpile we call the Republican Party. That was damage control.
    The entire matter was a loss.
     
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    The various lines running through by Twitter feed amount to a teeth-gritting, head-shaking, just another day in the Democratic compromise.

    The Elizabeth Warren DNA gambit encapsulates in microcosm what the Dems have been prone to for so long: A credulous insistence that fact-checking can dispel talking points made in cynicism and bad faith.


    I actually do trust her, despite my belief this was a bad idea, because she's Elizabeth effing Warren, and I expect she will slash someone's throat with this along the way, all nonchalant, and as we rattle off the blood and disbelief, hindsight will seem so absolutely clear that, why not, since she's already stooped to meet them on this field in the first place, she might as well make a point of it.
     
  13. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    From Huffington Post <<<:

    (emphasis mine)

    What the fuck?!

    What does that even mean?

    What?!

    Can I plausibly sue this fuckwit for drastically lowering my seizure threshold? Correlation will not be difficult to establish, of course, causation is another matter entirely. But still...
     
  14. Capracus Valued Senior Member

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    After trump spits out the crow he chokes on you can have a go at it too.
    Wrong. Wisdom is when you’re confronted with a problem and you take a course of action to effectively deal with it. It’s even possible that her confidence in her heritage was so high that she put off testing for the very effect it’s presently having on her detractors. This is a big win for her and her supporters.
     
  15. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Apparently he also said "I never said that."
     
  16. Capracus Valued Senior Member

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    Trump will claim the deal required him to supply the DNA test, and that she didn’t take him up on that offer. Or he will employ the Bill Maher defense regarding orangutan ancestry and claim it was a joke. Weasle is oviously in his DNA.
     
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  17. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I predict
    "I never bet her"
    "It doesn't matter"
    "She doesn't have enough Native American in her to matter."
    "It's not important. What's REALLY important is how she's a criminal."
     
  18. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    egg & spoon race
    3 legged race
    sack race
    teachers fancy dress costume race
    parents super hereo costume race

    ... have i missed any ?
     
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  19. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    The Gestapo beleive you have a jewish pen pal so they will be taking a DNA sample to make sure you dont have any dirty genes.
    if you have any gypsy clothes, you may carry them in to a local party office where you will not be arrested as long as you join the party at the same time you visit and then burn the clothes out the back as part of the joining ceremony.

    you look a little dark skinned so dont be offended if your asked to make the tea and clean the toilets when you first join the party to avoid being arrested for treasonous racial terrorism.

    while wearing homo-erotic nothern european cultural apropriation costumes

    note, de-personalising someone to make them appear more like a stereo type of a pre ordained group and then asserting their free will is in fact an act of politicial motivation reminds me of some stuff i read on behaviours around domestic abuse(& child predation) where the victims personal identity is eroded and they are turned into a non human thing which validates the abuse by the abuser.

    warrens choice of the indiginous womens refuge for the donation is exceptionally well chosen.
    Domestic abuse in the low class working poor and low class working class is very very difficult to deal with because the rich self interested types will always deny medical services funding for these victims.
    meanwhile all those people living hand to mouth from one pay cheque to the next with massive personal debt ... they cant aford to take a day off to go and seek therapy for being a battered wife or a battered child(battered children[& most working class poor] dont have money to pay for expensive therapy and doctors) or even time off to try and get therapy for the parents.
    its a pretty tough world and they know everyone, even kids get the bash so you better learn to take it.
    sad to see rich priviliged aristocrats normalising that through speeches about how the poor and more soo poor victims and poor children should never been helped properly because they need to have something to strive for.

    when that striving is for victim support medical care and mental health care..
    its a bit of a shit-hole cultural norm.

    soo... denying working class poor pre teen and teen girls the right to access sexual/re-productive system health medical care is an act of pure evil.
     
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  20. Michael 345 Bali tonight Valued Senior Member

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    Horse race
    Dog race
    Frog race
    Cockroach race
    Snail race
    Numerous other various living organisms race
    Misnamed political race

    I am sure I have missed some

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  21. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    race race( a race inside an actual race)
    and if your really big on stock farming and have built a mini race inside your man race, then you have a race inside that
    you have a race in a race race

    casual conversation cattle farmers
    "i see that new race race is really racey", "have you tried racing it against the other races to see which race races fastest ?"
     
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  22. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    Already done--see post #110:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-elizabeth-warren-dna_us_5bc5037de4b0d38b58704d7b

    I "like" how Trump expresses percentages as fractions. This guy has single-handedly vindicated and confirmed the entirety of RD Laing's ouvre.
     
  23. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    ... pocahontas pay day...
    transaction complete payment required.
    verbal contract with repeated claims and assertions

    he asked her to get a DNA test to show her ancestry publicly on record, in exchange he would pay her 1 million dollars.
    she accepts the offer by stating the payee-recipient and going through with the test.

    im sure now a court can legaly manage another DNA test which will be a legal enforcement to claim the owed 1 million dollars and pay it to the indigenous womens refuge

    looks like an open and shut case.

    surprised he did not graciousely accept & appologise after asking for an independant lab who does the govt testing to confirm the result and then do a big photo op of handing over the money to her so she can do a big photo op handing over the money and its all a win/win/win

    imagine the credibility he would have gained from all the swing voters who have truned away from the republicans.
    wow !
    ive done some pretty stupid things in my life(haven't we all), but this guy should recognise a good busines deal when one arrives in his lap.
     

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