# Fire Fighters Refuse to Fight Fire, Homeowners Forgot to Pay Fee

Discussion in 'Politics' started by spidergoat, Oct 6, 2010.

1. ### spidergoatLiddle' Dick TaterValued Senior Member

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http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/local/Firefighters-watch-as-home-burns-to-the-ground-104052668.html

So, there's a $75 dollar fee if you want fire fighters to put out your house if you live South of the city limits. Apparently, the couple usually pays the fee but forgot this year. The fire fighters put out the neighbor's house after the fire spread there (they had paid the fee). By the way, every seat on the County Commission there is filled by Republicans. It would have raised the property tax 13 cents per house to have universal fire coverage. This is amazing. This the future, you limited government, no tax morons. I happen to think that some basic public services are good for society. 2. ### Google AdSenseGuest Advertisement to hide all adverts. 3. ### BellsStaff Member Messages: 23,390 I think what made this even worse is that they actually sat and watched the house burn, after they had responded to put out the spreading fire in the neighbours field. And they stopped at the fenceline from the neighbour's property. The homeowner, Mr Cranick and his family, lost their home, all their belongings and their pets in the blaze. All while the fire brigade sat in their trucks and watched and did nothing at all to help. Seriously, what the hell? Again, what the hell? They let a house burn to the ground and let those pets die because of$75? A $75 they said they'd pay immediately and were refused because they were told it was too late by then? 4. ### Google AdSenseGuest Advertisement to hide all adverts. 5. ### Buffalo RoamRegistered Senior Member Messages: 16,931 Yes, tried to cheap it out, that$75.00 figures out to .20 cents a day.

Now where is the proof that the every seat on the County Commission there is filled by Republicans?

Now guess what just like the Police the Fire Department has no obligation to protect the individual at large.

7. ### joepistoleDeacon BluesValued Senior Member

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It seems like a silly way to fund the fire department. It should be funded with property taxes or other such tax....not a fee.

How do they respond to medical emergencies? Do you have to pay them $100 before they rescue you or your family if they should have a medical emergency? What if you are just passing through the municipality? I hear beck an Fox were defending the fire department this evening. 8. ### BellsStaff Member Messages: 23,390 I think that's kind of beside the point. They offered to pay immediately when they were reminded that they had failed to pay it and were refused. Or did that escape you? Can't you read links? Voila.. It was linked earlier. All you had to do was read it. Lazy much Buffalo? You are actually defending this? 9. ### BellsStaff Member Messages: 23,390 I'd be curious.. What would the reaction have been if people had actually died or been injured as a result of their sitting in their trucks and watching the fire destroy the property? What if someone was trapped in the house or on the property? Would they have gotten out of their trucks and done something then? Or would they refuse because he'd failed to pay his$75 on time? Why did they refuse to let him pay it then and there, as he'd offered, if that $75 was so important? It is inconceivable that this can happen in a Western country in this day and age. They pay their taxes, which would fund the municipal costs that the fire brigade would have to access, such as the roads and the water.. Which is ironic really in this case.. I wonder if their insurers are going to do anything about it.. 10. ### NeverflyBannedBanned Messages: 3,576 I find this wording very biased. It presents conservatism as dark and meager. The "other vision" - A PROGRESSIVE one, the American Dream... C'mon- very blatant bias in writing. Moving along... The way I see it, and the way things operate here... That Annual$75 is little to pay. Any self respecting rescue organization does the saving FIRST and settles up after.
For a mere $75, I'd be confident that the fee would be collected. The attitude at work of "Too late" is appalling and disgusting. They should have put the fire out and settled with the man later on the annual due fees. I disagree. These men are humans, not robots. They had a choice to stand by and do Nothing. I've been Volunteer Fire department (Not paid, nor full time) but I can speak from experience--- My guys wouldn't have just stood there and watched a mans HOME Burn to the ground while the homeowner pleaded and begged. Even if he didn't offer to pay anything. Even if the President himself was standing there barking orders to "Do Nothing! He didn't pay the little fee on time!" We'd have been hooking up hoses. Even if we had to cover the little$75 ourselves.

Those in charge of this little operation took 'zero tolerance' style of thinking to extremes.
This smacks of a man having a heart attack and the paramedics refusing to save his life because he didn't pay his $75 fee last year. 11. ### 786Searching for TruthValued Senior Member Messages: 3,089 Just like the military. Robotic idiots. Peace be unto you Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! 12. ### BellsStaff Member Messages: 23,390 I don't disagree with you. I just find this whole thing bizarre. That for$75 that he had forgotten to pay, they actually sat there and watched as his house and his pets burned. That they went to the aid of the neighbour, who had paid, when the fire spread to his property and they actually stopped at the fenceline. You watch the videos from the links provided and you ask yourself what the hell..?

What is worse, is that when he apparently called the fire brigade, he was told that he was not on the list as he had failed to pay his service fees. At that point, the fire was slowly approaching the house. He then begged to be allowed to pay it then and there and was told it was too late. When they arrived to put out the fire in the neighbours field, he again begged to pay and they refused, instead they sat and watched as it consumed his house and then drove away. The reporters on the scene filmed them doing it.

That for a forgotten fee, they could allow a family's home to burn to the ground, along with their pets.. There are really no words that I can use in this forum to describe it.

Exactly.

18. ### BellsStaff Member

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It is an emergency service. They pay their taxes. That should suffice.

If they are so intent on the extra fee for rural residents, they could have billed him afterwards.

But consider what you are saying. That emergency services should be withheld if people forget to pay a fee. When he was made aware that he had not paid the fee, he offered to pay the fee and/or whatever it took. And he was told no.

And then, to make this that little bit worse, the fire brigade arrived to put out the spreading fire in the neighbours field and then sat and watched the man's house burn and then drove off. They did not check to make sure there was no one inside the house. They allowed that family's house and property to burn to the ground, along with their pets, for $75. Where is the accountability of the firemen in those trucks who sat there and watched his house and pets burn to the ground? 19. ### Buffalo RoamRegistered Senior Member Messages: 16,931 Now where did it say they forgot to pay in the article? I did read the link and no where did it say that the whole county board was Republican..... Yes, Bells go to the link and point out the Republicans on the list please.....I see a list of every official, but what I don't see is any party affiliation http://www.obiongop.com/?page_id=85 Yes, Bells please highlight the Republicans on the list. Bells, go crash your car with out insurance and then try and collect from the insurance company, the guy didn't pay, no where did he state that He forgot to pay, he just didn't pay, trying to cheap out, yes try and buy fire protection from the insurance company when your house catches fire, it don't work that way. 20 cents a day vs:$100,000+ lose of a home? yes stupidity.

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20. ### Buffalo RoamRegistered Senior Member

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No Bells they didn't pay their taxes, they are in a different taxing district, the county, not the city.

There is no county fire department, only city and for the city to operate out side of the city limits a...Fee must be paid.

There also would be a problem with insurance coverage of the Fire Fighters if they would be injured responding to a Fire that was not in their jurisdiction, that is why that fee must be paid to create a contractual obligation.

21. ### NeverflyBannedBanned

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Let me make something very clear...

You have No idea what you are talking about.

And I don't give a fuck about what the Moderators or anyone else thinks- If you said that to my face I'd lay your sorry ass out on the pavement knocked out cold. You smarmy little Prick.

You dare speak when You have no burden to carry, no idea what combat is like or the heavy choice made to honor commitment. To take a persons LIFE and try to cope with the sleepless nights after.
And you think soldiers blindly follow orders? How the hell would you know?
A soldiers DUTY includes questioning through the chain of command.
It's part of the CREED:

22. ### TrooperSecular SanityValued Senior Member

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Ten bucks says you’ll apologize by tomorrow…