Finding Salvation

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  1. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    At the very least... ant som peoples "choises" much mor limited than others.???

    Why do you continue to do thangs you shudnt.???

    I cant forgive myself... i dont blame myself to begin wit.!!!

    How does that apply to the "after-life".???
     
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  3. -ND- Human Prototype Registered Senior Member

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    Working harder at life is all mental. It is a brain workout not physical.
     
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  5. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Workin harder ant necessarly workin smarter... "luckly'... i ant wired to try an convience myself that Gosts an Gobblins an Wiches an demons an devels are real an out to "get-me" if i dont behave like som suposed "God" wants me to.!!!
     
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  7. Pipes75 Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not sure I understand the question.
    No matter where we are, no matter how tough or easy things may seem; we always have choices. Everything is all about choices. Some choices come with consequences, but the choice is still their.



    I don't do things that I think I shouldn't do. I do make mistakes, learn from the mistakes, and move on. No one has all the knowledge and understanding to be completely aware at all times. Increasing awareness is done by gaining knowledge, and I find I learn the most from the mistakes I make.



    But if you're aware you act selfishly (as you said you do), and you're aware you make mistakes (as we all do); than one day you will seek forgiveness.
    It's not so much about blame, it's more about recognizing we all make mistakes, but their is no time for regrets as long as we learn from the mistakes we make.

    It doesn't.
    Afterlife is the life after this one.
    Afterlife is in the light, and the possibilities of light are endless, so I won't speculate too much more on that.
    But if you learn to Love and Respect freely, and you learn the importance of forgiveness; I promise you will know and feel the light within you, that many call their soul!

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  8. Pipes75 Registered Senior Member

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    The darkness is just as much a part of you as the light. Not 'out to get you' but a part of you that serves a purpose.
    The demons that you speak of, are what lives in our own personal darkness. We must face our own demons when we face our fears, which is done when we learn to forgive ourselves.

    I preffer the term spirits rather than ghosts, and they are certainly not 'out to get you' - they are just different forms of light, some lost, some exploring, some unhappy, some waiting, etc....

    Witches became a popular term after England killed pretty much every free thinking, free speaking women in the 1800's, so according to history, witches are just open minded women - nothing to be afraid of.

    God doesn't tell you how to behave. You would understand everything alot better if you let your light shine!
    Respect, Love and Forgiveness all came from within me - I didn't even recognize the important symbolic messages offered elsewhere that value the same things as me, until after I opened my own third eye!
     
  9. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
    At the very least... ant som peoples "choises" much mor limited than others.???

    Dont som people have mor choises avalable to them than other people.???

    Dont you choose to continue to sin.???

    Whats somptin you do that ant for "selfish" reasons.???

    I dont "blame" myself when i make a "mistake" so thers nuthin to forgive myself for... an i dont have "regrets" whether i repete a mistake or not.!!!

    I thank if you quit "blamin" you woud lose the need to forgive... lol.!!!
     
  10. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    I simply dont feel a need to forgive myself for bein human an behavin the way humans behave.!!!

    An mayb all of 'em non-existent... lol.!!!

    The Holey-Bible says to kill 'em.!!!

    Yeah i only have 2 eyes so i guess that esplanes why i dont see eye-to-eye wit you... eh

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  11. -ND- Human Prototype Registered Senior Member

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    LOL, if someone were to do what you said they would be a nutcase and paranoid and obssesed. It is totally different from believing in God and Devil.
     
  12. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
    Workin harder ant necessarly workin smarter... "luckly'... i ant wired to try an convience myself that Gosts an Gobblins an Wiches an demons an devels are real an out to "get-me" if i dont behave like som suposed "God" wants me to.!!!

    If the devel ant out to "get-you"... what IS he up to.???

    What about people who beleive that Jesus is ther Lord an Savior... are they paranoid obssesed nutcases.???
     
  13. -ND- Human Prototype Registered Senior Member

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    It is only acknowledgement. No, probably not. Not unless they put Jesus at the end every sentence.
     
  14. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    What will you'r heaven be like.???
     
  15. Pipes75 Registered Senior Member

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    In some aspects of life sure, but we all still make choices, anmd there is always a choice. Our lives are different, are experiences are different, our choices are also different.

    No, I still make mistakes, but I Love everyone, I respect everyone, and no I don't choose to sin, although some of my mistakes might be sins of some kind. I'm not religious anyway, I'm spiritual remeber. lol. I do get tempted sometimes, but even in the moments of passion, my love and respect is there.


    Anytime we share, and give. I'm no saint. I'm still learning as I go, and I've had many selfish moments in the past. Right now it feels like the most important thing I can share is just info, but I'm not very good at explaining things yet. Anytime we give without expecting anything in return, we are acting in a way that is not selfish.



    As I said, forgiveness isn't about blame. It's part of facing our fears, and being OK with our mistakes. Maybe you already did it without knowing, since you are OK with making mistakes. Some are capable of dealing with each mistake as it happens, I let many build up before I faced them!

    No blame. I don't blame anyone for anything. Everyone is just trying to do what they think is best. I don't agree with what some think is best. But I don't blame people for making mistakes. I certainly don't blame myself!!!
    But by taking responsibilkity of myself and my mistakes, forgiveness will always be important to me.
     
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    Humans made it this way, but humans could also make it a better place if we just learned from the mistakes!
    Continuing to do the same mistakes over and over again is not human nature, that's my deffinition of insanity!

    I can assure you, that I KNOW afterlife is real. But the possibilities are endless. We don't all go to the same place, we don't all want the same things! Whether or not you believe in spirits doesn't change what I already know. People ask for physical evidence for such things, lol - spirits are spiritual, not physical!

    WTF???
    The Bible doesn't say to kill 'witches' - that was man that killed open minded women.
    The only killing done in the Bible is what man does to other men!
    I'm not religious, but I can still recognize all the violence in the Bible was violence that man did to eachother. No where does it say to kill, but if it did, it would be a man saying it.



    We all have a third eye. Not everyone opens the eye in the mind though.

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    I'm glad to be awake and free.
    I just don't know how to change the world yet, lol.
    peace clue
     
  17. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Exodus 22:18
    Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
     
  18. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Sinse it ant you'r choise when you make a mistake/sin... what causes you to make mistakes/sin.???
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    “ Whats somptin you do that ant for "selfish" reasons.??? ”

    Whats somptin you do that ant for selfish reasons.???

    For esample:::

    Is som adult rapein a child tryin to do what they thank is best.???

    Then what is it.???


    How woud it make you feel to change the world.???


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    God killed everbody on earf wit his grate flood... an no mass murderer... not even Hitler held a candle to that.!!!
     
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  19. Pipes75 Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not too familar with the second book.
    But than again, the books were written by men anyway, so this doesn't prove nothing to me.
    As I said, the killing was man on man, and this just shows man was afraid of things it didn't understand from a very early age.
     
  20. Pipes75 Registered Senior Member

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    Huh???
    There is always choices. Mistakes are part of experiencing life.
    I do not do anything I consider a 'sin'. But I am not religious, I do not take every word literally.
    I do what I think is best, but on the way I know I'll make mistakes.
    But it is always my choice, I just don't always know I'm making a mistake until after it happens.

    Trying to spread compassion. Although I'm still trying to learn it to.
    As I said, anytime we give or share for no self gaining reason.
    I don't want to get into too many examples of giving, cause then it looks like I'm seeking acknowledgement!
    I've given items to people for no reason before, other then I thought they could make better use of it.


    Your example is too vague. Unfortunetly, there are many misguided reasons pedafiles do what they do.
    Most pedafiles have an urge to find some sort of purity.
    Alot of them only see what they think is pure, in a child.
    Most pedafiles know they are doing something wrong, but they are afraid to face their own fears, and they don't take control of themselves.
    I don't condone their actions. If I was put in a situation where I come face to face with a pedafile while he's in action, I'd probably react and do something I know is wrong! But I don't hate the pedafiles, I feel their pain, and I have sympathy for them. Misguided, lost, and afraid is how I would describe them.

    What is what, continuing to make the same mistakes?
    That's what I call insanity.

    What is human nature?
    Depends who you ask.
    Perhaps it's the protective insticts of a mother.
    Maybe it's just learning.
    Or maybe it's just a made up myth to make it easier to not try and make things better!


    Compassion will change the world.
    I'm just not sure if I will be a part of the change.
    I think I'm before my time, or way too late, one or the other, lol.
    But the obvious answers in how to make this world a better place is hidden in compassion.
    If I ever figure my own out enough, and learn how to spread it, I will start making changes to my world, but eventually the entire world will be included in my dream!

    I don't blame God for natural disasters!!!

    I am spiritual, not religious. I know I keep saying it, but that's cause a lot of religious stuff is being thrown at me. I see metephorical truth in all religions when I look for it, but I don't look for physical truth to religion!

    Metephorically speaking, a couple possibilities come to mind (odf coarse this is just 2 of many possibilities!):

    If God is all light, then he takes no form. (Guess thats why no one can see him,

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    If the Devil is all dark, then he takes no form. (We need the Space too, so I even Love and Respect the guy!)

    OR

    If God can take form, he must have some darkness to him. (For those that do see 'God' responsible for natural disasters, this might work)

    If the Devil can take form, he must have some light to him. (If the Devil has light, he can change!)
     
  21. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    So you've gone from "The Bible didn't say it":
    To, "oh well if it does it was written by men". (Or maybe just "That bit was written by men").
    So if it was written by men why bother believing any of it?
     
  22. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    How do you define "free-will".???

    How do you define "sin".???

    So you received no personal joy by givin those things.???

    If you had to kill the person to stop 'em from rapein a child... woud that be rong.???

    Do people choose to be insane.???

    How woud it make you feel to change the world.???

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    God killed everbody on earf wit his grate flood.!!!

    Genisis7:::
    And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

    So you disregard the parts of the Holey-Bible that disagree wit you'r beleifs.!!!

    Do you beleive in reincarnaton.???
     
  23. Pipes75 Registered Senior Member

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    From the begining I've said I'm not religious, I'm spiritual.
    I already said all the killing in the Bible was man on man.
    I've never read any part of any Bible that promotes killing as God's Will.
    However the Bible is full of Man vs Man violence.

    Man obviously wrote the books. I've never questioned that.
    And Exodus is not a part of the traditional Bible. It's part 2!!!

    Because it serves as spiritual guidance left behind from our ancestors, to shows different possible paths to help find your spiritual way. Just like many other things were learned and passed down, the spiritual significance of many different things was once learned and meant to be passed down, but somewhere along the way, man lost touch with his spirituality, and we only valued the things we could prove to be true through evidence!

    I am not religious, but there is plenty of truth in religions once you understand the spiritual side of life.
     

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