fighting styles

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Sir. Brilliance, Nov 30, 2005.

  1. Sir. Brilliance Registered Senior Member

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    Does anyone know of a fighting style that is intesnly difficult to learn but allows you to gain amazing reflexes and be able to dispatch just about anyone? Please no bullshit or karate or taekwan do or anything lie that i want some obscure really powerful fighting style that basically nobody has masterd. If you don't want to share it with other people I will prowide my e-mail address.

    Thank you.
     
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  3. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    If no one has mastered "it", then how are you going to learn it? ...from a fuckin' book??

    Baron Max
     
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  5. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, there is something like that. Probably many forgotten arts. My friend is a Hapkido expert, and he told me about a style that his teacher learned from someone in Korea. It wasn't Hapkido, (which actually fits your description, too, but more well known) but something more obscure. My friend's teacher, Mr. Kim, was involved in some kind of feud with these guys, and ended up learning this technique from strange person in the mountains. The story was confusing, but I can try to ask my friend about it. I don't remember the name.
     
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  7. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Gunfights on the Main Street at high noon is a pretty obscure fighting form ...and the style is pretty well forgotten, too. Perhaps that's what he's thinkin' of?

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  9. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    This is a dumb thread to be posted in Human Science, but I'll answer anyway.

    This style doesn't exactly match all your criteria, but your criteria, as has been pointed out, is dumb.

    Aikido.
    If you want something that kicks ass.
    Then learn aikido.
    If you want to kick ass and make someone look like a bitch.
    Aikido's the way to go.

    Aikido is about pressure points and submission holds.
    I saw a video once of this little old Japanese man. He must have been like 4 feet tall. And OLD. The whole video was comprised of him being attacked over and over by students and each of them were dealt with quickly, easily, and efficiently.

    Yes. They were all coming at him just right. Arms out in just the right positions. Plus, a large part of training in martial arts of this type (judo as well as others) consist of learning how to take a fall. How to roll. Etc... Otherwise you'd quickly have your arms dislocated and other painful injuries. So, this must be taken into consideration when watching people 'kick ass' in such scenarios.

    However, by mastering Aikido, you learn so many different methods that it covers almost all possibilities. Mastering it, of course, consists of going past thinking about it and imprinting it into muscle memory.

    In a way, your criteria of 'basically nobody has mastered' is true of any style. There is no such thing as true mastery. I don't think so, anyway. You can always get that much better. That much more instinctual.


    Interesting link between muscle memory and the eastern philosophy of denial of self.
    A master of a martial art is not thinking. He is not master. He is not even really involved. It's his body that acts without his will needing to push it.

    There can be no complete removal of self from the equation (short of mental illness) and thus there can be no complete mastery. Despite claims to the contrary.
     
  10. Sir. Brilliance Registered Senior Member

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    Baron max i said bascally no one , not no one. I thank al of yoou.. More input would greatly be appreciated.
     
  11. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    Shaolin gong fu,

    Taiji,

    combined together, with years of dedication and hard work.

    if you can master them.
     
  12. stretched a junkie's broken promise Valued Senior Member

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    Any reputable martial art is a starting point. There is no magic bullet. Martial skill begins with the first lesson and the lesson never ends. It takes many years, but improvement is ongoing, and a lot of satisfaction can be gained from steady progress. But at the end of the day, you have to ask yourself what it is you want to achieve from martial skills. The best outcome would be to achieve a decent level of skill, and then see how you fare on the tournament circuit. There are no free lunches in martial arts. And fights should stay in the dojo. What`s the point in taking on somebody with no fighting skill? Best of all is the urge to fight often evaporates as the skill level increases.
     
  13. Roman Banned Banned

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    Not magical, but they'll do.
     
  14. Satyr Banned Banned

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    My favorite fighting style is an old and tested one.
    No training required…it comes naturally.

    I scream like a little girl, scratch and slap aimlessly at the other and then turn and run.

    If that doesn’t work, try soiling yourself while you make weird gurgling noises with your throat and then crying uncontrollably.
     
  15. john smith Tongue in cheek Registered Senior Member

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    Or another old school ace is to kick the fucker as hard as you can in the nether regions, then run like a bat outta hell!! Works for me, every-single-time!!!!

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  16. Gustav Banned Banned

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    interesting. expand please
     
  17. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    That's right, there is no magic technique. You would have to be an accomplished martial artist to begin with to even learn some of these obscure methods, and the only use of them is against other martial artists against whom regular fighting styles don't work.
     
  18. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    thats a shaolin move,

    shaolin gong fu has the hardest training methods to follow, its not about anything fancy, its about speed, power, inner strength, outer strength, and training your mind,

    alot of stretching all day
    various animal fighting forms
    tiger
    snake
    crane
    leopard
    dragon (plus litterally hundreds more family variations)
    standard forms of shaolin, ie lohan quan/chuan etc
    shaolin wieght training, various types (suo shi/ shi sui)
    hard qigong, soft qigong
    hours of stance holding
    lots of sparring
    many shaolin drill training (simular to CT but more intense with a twist)
    alot of mental training ie candle or water training, punching out candles, and slapping water with your palms to gain mental strength on cold mornings,
    iron fist
    iron sand palm
    gold palm
    iron neck
    iron skull
    iron chest
    iron teeth/jaw
    1 finger zen
    2 finger zen
    northern and southern methods,
    mountain climbing (every morning before breakfast, the monks must run up a mountain then crawl back down on hands and feet)
    mountain running, (every day the monks must run around the mountains with heavy weapons, before weapons training)
    shaolin pole training, (high elevated poles for balencing and sparring on).
    various weapons training, dao swords dragon spears, boar spears, bo staffs, chains, throwing blades, many weapons i dont even know the correct names for,
    water balencing training, (tie legs to a high beam, balence one bucket ont he beam, and have one bucket on the floor, get water fromt he botom in a little cup pull yourself up, and transfer water into bucket on beam untill bucket empty)
    horse stance (fundemental stance of shaolin i would say personally, perform horse stance on shaolin poles, with bowls of water on your head outstretched hands, and knees, spike underneath your ass so dont fall, then hold horse riding stance for aslong as you can)



    thats just a little summary off the top of my head, of some of the shaolin training methods, i will post more if people want info,


    peace,
     
  19. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    http://www.kungfulibrary.com/about-72-shaolin-arts.htm


    i havent fully checked out this site, but from what ive read so far, it is accurate,

    scroll down to the bottom and it has an index, then click on desired infomation, for those who want to learn a little more about shaolin gong fu,



    72 shaolin movements/strikes, (of one section of standard shaolin)

    1 Mo zhang - the grinding palm

    2 Feng zhang - the windy palm

    3 Liuxin zhang - the rocket palm

    4 Chuanso zhang - the shuttle palm

    5 Tui shan zxang - the palm pushing a mountain

    6 Pi chai zhang - the palm cutting wood

    7 Chen zhuan zhang - the palm breaking bricks

    8 Jin zhusa zhang - the palm with iron grasp

    9 Jin gou shou - the iron hook-like arm

    10 Wa yan shou - the hand tearing out eyes

    11 Tanglang shou - the leg of an Mantodea

    12 Bai she xin shou - the hand as accurate as a spittle of the white snake

    13 Hei hou tiao shou - the black tiger jumps over a mountain

    14 Heihu zhua lian shou - the claws of the black tiger grasping the face

    15 She mao shou - the hand like a snake-shaped blade

    16 Bai xin shou - the hand of eight wizards

    17 Zhin cha zhi - the finger like a gold pin

    18 Zhou zhi - the bamboo finger, the finger like a bamboo stick

    19 Wu kua hongqian zhi - five fingers like red flower pistil

    20 Zhin gong zuan zhi - the piercing finger as hard as a diamond

    21 Cuan xin zhi - the finger piercing the heart

    22 Tou gu zhi - the finger punching holes in bones

    23 Yi zhi jin - the finger as hard as metal

    24 Chan si zhou - the elbow with a cord wound on it

    25 Go xin zhou - the elbow punching the heart

    26 Po yin zhou - the elbow breaking Yin

    27 Niu chan tui - the dislocated thigh

    28 Pe zhu gan - a bamboo fighting pole

    29 Gu shu pan gen - twisted roots of a dry tree

    30 Te wu gen di - the iron buffalo ploughs soil

    31 Fei mai qiao - the leg flying like a feather

    32 Hei xian feng - the black water-spout

    33 Tie sazou - the iron broom

    34 Hou tiao qian - the monkey jumping over a wall

    35 Yian qu shui - the swallow drinks water

    36 Chang e bian yue - Sorceress Chan E ascends the moon

    37 Tian gou chi yang - the Heaven's Dog eats the Sun

    38 Ha mo zu tian - the toad drills the sky

    39 Gang jin juan - the diamond fist

    40 Shi kai hua - the stone blossoms out like a flower

    41 Zuan xin chui - the hammer punching the heart

    42 Lu kai hua - the skull blooming out like a flower

    43 Duan mu zhuang - to break a wooden stove-couch

    44 Ti jie shi - to break a stone with a leg

    45 Fang feng Zhen - Zhen releases winds

    46 Da shai dai - to strike at a sand bag

    47 Fen mu guan - the coffin broken into pieces

    48 Dai tie wa - to wear iron hoops

    49 Diao shaku - to hang trousers with sand

    50 Yue ying jian - to jump over a moon abyss

    51 Feng xuan ai - the flight from a steep precipice

    52 Go wu ji - to jump over a roof gable

    53 Zuo liu xing - the rocket stance

    54 Taishan zhuan - the pole like the Taishan mountain

    55 Xin yi ba - the heart and mind clench

    56 Qi wei chuan dong - the bristling hedgehog strikes a hole

    57 Suang to yue - to embrace the moon

    58 Tie gan tui - the leg like an iron pole

    59 Kao re guo - the cauldron heated on fire

    60 Zuai ti deng - to throw down a stool by a foot

    61 Lu da gun - the ass's strike

    62 Zhai she zu - the foot digging soil

    63 Guang chuan tie bu shan - to put on an iron shirt on the naked body

    64 Wu kong fan jin dou - Wu Kong fights against sinew dislocations

    65 Tian bing xia fan - the Celestial Soldier descends the sky

    66 Da murien - to strike a man of wood

    67 Xie zi zou lu - the scorpion crawls along the road

    68 Qian jintui - the leg weighing one thousand jins

    69 Zha yan huan zuo deng - to change in an instant the stool

    70 Luohan shen gong - Luohan's magic feat

    71 Jiao long nu kong - the coiling dragon growls in wrath

    72 Qi guan qi mao - the breath "chi" washes the hair on the skin



    peace,
     
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  20. domesticated om Stickler for details Valued Senior Member

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    I hear that there is one technique that is guaranteed to beat any enemy.

    Legends says that any man who masters the sacred 'quarter circle forward' technique is near invulnerable.

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  21. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    who told you of this technique?


    who is your master?


    peace.
     
  22. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    Domesticated Om,

    I challenge your mastery of the quarter circle forward with my own.

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    Muaha!!

    Ah. The old days of streetfighter. Good God, I used to kick some major ass at that game. The hours and hours and hours spent fighting.

    I think the multiple combos of Killer Instinct (the first one) was a huge advancement in fighting games. Man. I could get on a real roll with those.

    And what about Drunken Style Fighting from Sega Saturn's Virtua Fighter? I could kick some ass with that old drunken bastard.

    Heh.
    Fighting games are so boring these days.
     
  23. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    http://www.shaolintempleuk.org/stuk/index.html


    this is where i study shaolin gong fu,


    and invert,

    play dragonball Z budokai series there fast, me my wife and friends always play those fighting games when we play playstation, but the old games have best gameplay i admit,


    peace,
     

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