Fed up of communism

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Pi-Sudoku, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. Pi-Sudoku Slightly extreme Registered Senior Member

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    That's why hardly anyone does
     
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  3. thedevilsreject Registered Senior Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    but they would still be poor wouldnt they, you never differenciated before poor people and people who didnt work
     
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  5. thedevilsreject Registered Senior Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    no government in their right minds are going to abolish tax
     
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  7. Pi-Sudoku Slightly extreme Registered Senior Member

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    I never said "abolish it" A significant reduction is certainly necessary though
     
  8. thedevilsreject Registered Senior Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    tax is vital for the running of society, look at what happened to america without tax
     
  9. Pi-Sudoku Slightly extreme Registered Senior Member

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    Americans have one of the best health services in the world and one of the best education systems in the world.

    British hospitals are dirty, have huge waiting lists and staff are laid off in vast numbers to coap with the cash deficit
     
  10. thedevilsreject Registered Senior Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    americans can die on the street and no-one would do anything if they didnt have the money
     
  11. Pi-Sudoku Slightly extreme Registered Senior Member

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    British people die on trolleys in hospital corridors
     
  12. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    That would be finland. And finland has one of the highest taxes in Europe.
     
  13. thedevilsreject Registered Senior Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    only straight away, if someone is dying an ambulance is called and they get taken away, do you ever get out much
     
  14. Pi-Sudoku Slightly extreme Registered Senior Member

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    An ambulance comes, you get to hospital, you get on a waiting list and come back in 6 months
     
  15. thedevilsreject Registered Senior Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    you get emergancy care, try to help you to stop from dying

    you are a RETARD
     
  16. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    infant mortality rates. See where you beloved USA is (hint- bottom). That's what not paying tax will do to your country. Note that Cuba, a third world country is above the USA.

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  17. Roman Banned Banned

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    What do the asterisks mean?
     
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  19. Roman Banned Banned

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    I wonder if America was broken into regional differences, you'd see bigger discrepencies.

    Dutchland is such a tiny little nation, as with most european countries, there's hardly any demographic variation.
     
  20. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Does it matter if you have the best Health care? Or is it just the best health care for those who can afford it?
     
  21. Roman Banned Banned

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    It's the latter.
     
  22. Pi-Sudoku Slightly extreme Registered Senior Member

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    The UK is barely above the USA, our health system doesn't work. It is inefective and inefficent
     
  23. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Since so many of the people posting on this thread seem to not be Americans and may not realize that is hyperbole, I can't let it go by.

    Almost every community in America, even the small rural ones, have a public hospital and an emergency response team--paramedics in ambulances. If a person is injured or is incapacitated by illness in a public place one of those ambulances will be dispatched. If he has an insurance card he'll be taken to the nearest hospital that's a member of that particular insurance network, but otherwise he'll be taken to the nearest public hospital and their first priority is to minister to his health. Meanwhile the clerical staff is feverishly trying to find out who's going to pay for it but that is only their second priority.

    My wife spent most of her career in a public hospital and this is how the system works in America. I don't believe that it's substantively different from any other Western country.

    Yes, the system is overwhelmed with bureaucracy and people can fall through the cracks, especially the eccentrics. Many of the homeless crazy people have such an aversion to authority that they'll hide until they're so sick they die under a bridge during the night.

    And of course the wealthy will get better care, that's just the way the universe works, but the poor will get care.

    My wife worked on the renal ward for a long time. Kidney patients in Mexico were really out of luck unless they were wealthy. There weren't enough dialysis machines to go around. Their doctors would tell them to find a way across the border and come to [our city] which had one of the best renal wards in the country. They walked in and were put on dialysis.

    It was hard to get the medical staff to talk about this. They didn't want it to become widely publicized because if it got too much attention the Rednecks would start lobbying to toss the people back across the border and let them die. Modern medicine offers more options to kidney patients and modern technology has made dialysis cheaper and easier so it's okay to say this today.

    America provides such good health care to the poor that the poor from other countries come here.

    But we also provide better health care for the rich. There are a lot of procedures that a person my age would simply not be able to obtain in the worker's paradise of Sweden. Even in Canada I could die waiting for the efficient, heartless socialist system to call the number of a man who's no longer producing. Rich people from other countries come here for medical care too.

    It doesn't really sound like such a bad place.
     

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