Faith healers.

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Xelasnave.1947, May 5, 2018.

  1. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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  3. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Thers fakes in all professions an just showin the fake healers shows you'r bias... why dont you show some videos of real healers usin the power of God to cure the sick an pay ther debts.!!!
     
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  5. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    Not really a reply to your post, just needed "faith healer" as a tag

    It sort of struck me, who exactly has the faith?

    If the sick person has the faith, why do they need anyone else

    If the faith healer has the faith, how does it get transferred over? Or does it need to be?

    Faith healer has faith but patient does not. How does that resolve?

    The sicker the patient, is MORE faith required?

    Or is faith a one size fits all all?

    A doctor tries to heal, doesn't work, the sickness wins

    A faith healer tries, doesn't work, the faith healer is off the hook, patient didn't have enough faith

    Sickness doesn't get a lookin

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  7. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    OK you put some links in and if under 5 minutes I'll bite

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  8. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Well... i never

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    I just now saw you'r post an will accept the chalange but the 5 minutes starts now.!!!
     
  9. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Google seems to be biased aganst fath healin makin it hard to find real healers… but i have witnessed it work wit my own eyes.!!!

    At church a kid had a short leg an instantly the preecher made it as long as his other leg by just pullin on it a little.!!!
     
  10. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    I didn't know Faith was sick. I'll send thoughts and prayers her way.
     
  11. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    Probably misunderstanding

    It's the VIDEOS which need to be under 5 minutes in length

    Sorry I wasn't clear

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  12. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    Hope and Charity will reward you for your kindness

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  13. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Put Chastity at the head of the line, please.
     
  14. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    You HOPE to defile CHASTITY before you get CHARITY?

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  15. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    If folk instead of saying....

    I believe because of my faith.

    SAID....

    I believe because of my hope.

    That would be a truthful representation one would think.

    Alex
     
  16. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    Not sure about that but faith or hope I contend are equally empty

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  17. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    I have FAITH that I will.
     
  18. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    I won't let people with imaginary friends tell me what words I can use or "what I meant by using" a word.
     
  19. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    My observation is only for folk with imaginary friends.
    Alex
     
  20. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Understood. Just making the default position clear.
     
  21. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Faith is their opinion nothing more but they wheel out "its my faith" and all back off as if we cant go there because its special...
    Well faith is what you require when you have no evidence and for me the use of "hope" would be more to the point...so a believer starts rattling on and when they sense they are being cornered out it comes " its my faith" well I say bmot the honest thing to say would be "its my hope".

    Its my faith that there is a God who loves me" should be set aside for " its my hope that there is a god that loves me"

    Which I will suggest to the next person who says to me its my faith...reminder...its your hope mate (as hopeless as it may be☺).
    Its raining here so a break from astronomy hope all is good for you...I heard we have a new PM have you heard anything☺ but I went to see Pink last weekend and dont need to know anything more.
    What a great show and I am not a fan.
    Alex
     
  22. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Hospital doctors wear white coats in no small part because a white lab coat says "I am a scientific healer."

    When asked to visualize a medical doctor, most people visualize someone in a white coat, often with stethoscope draped around their neck.

    symbolism matters
    If you have faith that the person in the white coat can heal you, then you are well on your way to achieving that goal.

    The healing does not lie within the faith healer
    The healing does not lie within the witch-doctor or shaman with a rattle and smoke driving out the evil spirits.
    The healing lies within the patient who believes that the practitioner can aid the patient on his/her journey to health.

    The white coat is just a different form of placebo.
     
  23. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Expectations are not limited to medical people though. Would you be comfortable with a pilot wearing a Hawaiian shirt? Or a plumber in top hat and tails?
     

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