Experiment to test W=mg

Discussion in 'Alternative Theories' started by Yaniv, Nov 2, 2017.

  1. Yaniv Registered Member

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    The basis to demand a test (beside to test E=mc2) is my theory and I explained in the first reply of this thread how I think this experiment should be done.
    The experiment I proposed will test if E=mc2 is flawed.
     
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  3. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Countless other experiments have verified E=mc^2 is not flawed - why would yours be different?
    Come up with some sort of proof - your theory is not proof of itself, and circular reasoning like that will get you laughed out of any credible agency of science.
     
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  5. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    Heck no. I am terrified that we will find out that you are right and all the physicist will lose their jobs and I will have to stop being a Chemical Engineer and will have to become a Alchemy Engineer!
     
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  7. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    That's absurd. You must have a quantitative prediction if your theory is any good. And if you don't, how can anybody construct an experiment of sufficient sensitivity to test it?
     
  8. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Can I actually feel sorry for you without repercussions?
     
  9. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Correct. As I have already explained, it has been tested many many times already and found correct.

    I think it was Einstein who said that repeating the same thing over and over again in the hope of different results was a sign of madness.
     
  10. Yaniv Registered Member

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    E=mc2 predicts W should increase at increasing T in vacuum (tiny immeasurable bit). W reduction at increasing T in vacuum, if exists, disproves E=mc2 and W=mg and the most fundamental axiom in physics - conservation of mass.
     
  11. Yaniv Registered Member

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    Use the most precise balance you can get your hand on and publish the results.
     
  12. Yaniv Registered Member

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    But my experiment could prove it wrong.
     
  13. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Then it should be easy for you to come up with an experiment to test this.
    Why is the onus on someone else to test your theory?

    Then do a write up on it, and propose to have it tested by someone with the means to do so. You will have to provide estimates on cost, materials, and other such requirements.
     
  14. Yaniv Registered Member

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    This experiment is designed to test a prediction of my theory against a prediction of yours. If you are not interested place thread back in physics and math forum so other physicists see thread and conclude the experiment.
     
  15. Yaniv Registered Member

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    I couldn't find anybody interested to help me write a proposal.
     
  16. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Oh ho ho? Pray tell, what "prediction" have I made? Kindly point that out to me, as I must have been in some sort of fugue state when it happened, as I don't recall making any such prediction.

    What I do recall doing is reiterating to you what decade after decade of science has proven to be true.

    And, no, I shan't be placing this back in "physics and math" at this time - this is an alternative theory with no apparent evidence to back it beyond your imagination... so there is no meat and potatoes herein which gives it any weight.

    Why do you need someone else to write a proposal? If your idea is that good, surely you should be able to do so yourself? Nobody at your school was interested in helping in what could potentially be a nobel prize winning effort? Hmm... maybe that is indicative of something?
     
  17. Yaniv Registered Member

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    Exactly!
     
  18. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Then come up with a test process, materials requirements, etc, and you will have something to propose...

    Until then, you don't have a theory - you have the product of an active imagination. That isn't a bad thing - but don't expect NASA to take time and money to test everything that pops into someones head.
     
  19. Yaniv Registered Member

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    All great theories begun in someones head and mine is testable.
     
  20. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Again, and this will likely be the last I'll post until you do it - write up a test plan, document what the expected resources are, what you will need to accomplish the test, estimated costs, etc. Provide some sort of mathematical proof to show a reason to bother with the expenditure of resources to conduct the test.
     
  21. Yaniv Registered Member

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    I think it is way too late for grant proposals now. #ResultsRequired
     
  22. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Off you go then and do it. We'll all listen attentively to you once you have solid results to support your theory.

    But not before.
     
  23. Yaniv Registered Member

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    I don't like to repeat myself but don't have the skills to do the experiment on my own. This experiment should be carried by proper experimentalists to test W=mg. #ResultsRequired
     

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