Evidence of Paranormal Psi influence -Trump

Discussion in 'Parapsychology' started by Quantum Quack, Jun 13, 2017.

  1. Truck Captain Stumpy Registered Senior Member

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    why is it not so easily discounted when a bureaucracy is slow and unwieldy? Your comment is nonsensical, especially when you consider the government. It's not like a business where a CEO is hired under a contract: the government officials are more than just a little difficult to get rid of unless there is extreme malfeasance or a similar treasonous problem with sh*tloads of evidence.

    trump is an idiot, and an *sshole, but so are many others

    and as pointed out: had you taken a cursory look at the constitution (which is freely available) ...


    erm... no
    for starters, there are various reasons people lie. In point of fact, your posts above demonstrate a lie that is being reiterated by yourself for the sake of your personal peace of mind and because you don't want to challenge your worldview with factual analysis or details that demonstrate your delusions
    (that would be quotes like: "The events that have taken place in Cuba recently are highly indicative of one form of weaponize-ation of quantum entanglement" or "the key word suggesting does not equate to a strong belief but more it eludes to a speculation that has some qualification" [sic])

    There is no doubt in my mind that you actually believe what you're saying. The problem isn't what you personally believe. The problem comes in when you try to make it sound like there are scientific or evidentiary justifications for your belief when there is none. Making a claim that there is evidence while only presenting your personal belief on the topic is equivalent to a lie because you've presented a subjective argument that requires the suspension of logic and a faith in the authority or source - you - while there is no factual data supporting you and plenty of factual data refuting your claims. (see also: False Claim)

    and so, because you want so desperately to believe in some "reason" that stupidity can exist at such a high and "important" level of political office, you seek out anything to justify your belief, like a psi-attack. Thus you have the answer, now you need "evidence" that you will accept, like:
    the problem with this type of argument is that history is rife with similarly stupid situations that are comparable or worse. There is no doubt in any rational persons mind that there will be more yet to contend with. POTUS has the same right to make an *ss out of themselves just like you do.

    As for consequenses: considering the lack of ability to actually predict the future, this comment is nonsensical.
    Just because one isn't paying the price now doesn't mean one is never going to pay any price at all. This is true of idiots elected to office just as much as it's true of psychopathic psychotic serial killers.
     
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  3. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Turning a blind eye:

    So you are prepared to accept that a president who has almost continually lied in office,
    • who is in control and command of the worlds greatest military,
    • has provoked nearly every nation he has had contact with (Including Australia),
    • has threatened millions of peoples lives with nuclear war.
    • who has clearly indicated a significant racist, pseudo religious agenda
    • has attempted to extort loyalty from many nations by using humanitarian aid and assistance as a bargaining chip.

    Should be allowed to continue doing so until "the bureaucracy" that Trump is constantly attempting to frustrate finally removes him from office?

    this is called turning a blind eye...

    His threat and actual cost to the USA future is massive and his threat to humanity generally imminent.

    Why are you acting as a Trump apologist, when your very existence depends on his lies?

    By the time Trump is finished there may not be any bureaucracy or constitution...to make use of to remove him from power.
     
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  5. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    You know another crazy thing...
    American Investors are investing in the stock markets not knowing why they are investing.
    Bitcoin is another classic example.
    The stock market is chronically over valued by a huge amount and is unsupported adequately by real value.
    The financial crisis of 87 will be a walk through compared to what appears to be about to happen.

    Why are people investing in such a crazy manner?
     
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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Because this:
    is a statement of belief, not of fact.

    And those that are quick and shrewd will make a lot of money in the time before it corrects itself.
     
  8. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    You obviously didn't suffer too much from the crisis of 87 to talk so glib about profit taking.
    Maybe this time when the market inevitably corrects itself, after all that profit taking, you might learn who is paying for that profit.
     
  9. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    btw Does any one know anything about Ruthenium-106 other than what you can get by googling?
     
  10. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures...
    After proposal:
    A proposed amendment becomes part of the Constitution as soon as it is ratified by three-fourths of the States (38 of 50 States). When the OFR verifies that it has received the required number of authenticated ratification documents, it drafts a formal proclamation for the Archivist to certify that the amendment is valid and has become part of the Constitution. This certification is published in the Federal Register and U.S. Statutes at Large and serves as official notice to the Congress and to the Nation that the amendment process has been completed.

    src: https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution
    Given Trumps profound influence changing the constitution to extend the term of office is quite possible....IMO
     
  11. Truck Captain Stumpy Registered Senior Member

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    sigh - not to defend the idiot current POTUS, but you're living under a lot of ignorance
    you would learn a lot if you would just read the constitution

    not apologizing for the idiot - I've never liked the idiot, nor have I ever condoned his behaviour
    you just don't have a clue

    also: in no way does my existence depend on the idiot or his lies

    not really
    for starters, there is this part:
    have you taken just a short time to actually look at the congressional voting record? (it's freely available)

    check out how many times the congress actually attained a 2/3 vote on anything then get back to me
     
  12. Truck Captain Stumpy Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, but you would do better to brush up here
    http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm
     
  13. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    and you are claiming I am deluded?

    Never heard of Rocket man Kim with his button on his desk just waiting for Trump to insult him again...
    Do you honestly think China and Russia (*) have been sitting idle over the last 12 months or so since Trump indicated his conflict and overly aggressive orientation.
    Taiwan, South China sea...and so on...

    Perhaps your native American Icon will protect you from your naivety?

    (*) which is one reason I mentioned Ruthenium-106 currently in the air over most of Europe....

    Under normal circumstance I would surely agree with you... however as proven countless times these are not normal circumstance...
     
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  14. Truck Captain Stumpy Registered Senior Member

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    actually, considering the evidence you continually provide reinforcing my point, it can't be considered merely a claim at this point...
    so?
    and?

    lets be honest: considering my age and more, the fact that I live so remote, and the fact that I don't know how I lived this long, there is absolutely nothing to fear on my end. More importantly, the worst that can happen to me would be a large drop in the wild animal population causing me to have to hunt further out than the norm while a nuclear winter affected my typical crops. None of that is a threat unless said winter lasts exceptionally long (more than a few decades). if said winter lasted longer it would eat into my reserves and become a threat to those reserves only.

    I am not like you. I don't live in a city with a need for infrastructure.

    moreover, you are assuming a world catastrophe. The world will not split apart (there isn't enough energy in those bombs to do that). I doubt the potential attack you fear will wipe out humans entirely. There are no major targets within a days hard drive from me. There is no way the potential attack you fear would wipe out all life. There is no way said attack you dear will kill off every building, storage, food source wild animal, insect, plant and everything else...

    what you fear is the abrupt change. perhaps you have a need to fear as you've not had any reason or cause to adapt to life off of your couch. that isn't so in my neck of the woods where there is no utilities at all, etc.
    you obviously still haven't read up on Wakinyan
    Wakinyan has far more empirical evidence than your psi-attacks
    IOW - you're so desperate to believe in your delusion that you are willing to completely disregard any empirical evidence that directly refutes your claims or beliefs

    you know what that means, right?
    this is no different than your argument that there can be no other means for those tumors in Cuba...

    repetition isn't going to make your argument more true, nor is it going to lend credence to your beliefs
     
  15. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Then you should take your own advise and stop repeating yourself perhaps...
    Over 75% of the worlds population spend time in prayer to a deity of some description. What do you think prayer is if not a psi projection?
     
  16. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    what you are talking about is normally called "self justification" and is a great subject worthy of a thread on it's own.

    A bit like you claiming that you can be independent of the outcomes of the decisions made by a despot called Trump. That you are somehow safe in your survivalist cave somewhere, insulated from nuclear fall out...
    Do you have any iodine tablets in your survival cache ?

    A video game just for you would be "Fall Out 4". Brilliant award winning and deals with survivalist coping with post USA after a nuke war between China and the USA.
    Seriously... a good game... lot's of fun...
     
  17. Truck Captain Stumpy Registered Senior Member

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    you're the one who thinks repeating that you believe in something being evidence is somehow evidence that there is evidence

    I mean... you have no evidence except for your belief, but you think that reiterating your belief and pointing to random coincidence that you, personally, can't explain is somehow evidence that there is some kind of psi-attack power floating around seeking non-believers to target?
    LMFAO
    prayer is a means of self-delusion and reiteration of a mantra: Considering the studies that were done with placebo's, mass delusion, mass hysteria and psychosomatic disorders, it stands to reason that religion and prayer utilise the same methods and pathways while claiming a specialised purpose to ensure people feel special and spread the disease


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    very true
    it is also the predominant reason one cannot really change the mind of a true believer in any pseudoscience, religion or other idiotic nonsense

    that doesn't mean we should allow pseudoscience, etc, to continue unchecked: there are many on the fence who need rational critical thinking responsible adults to guide them (see: ) so they don't get conned into believing horse-puckey being touted as a rational evidence-based discussion

    1- any and every person is independent of the outcome and decision with the exception of the military as it will be required to act upon said order. Why do you ASSume that because a person is posting and speaks English that they're capable of any direct actions to eliminate trump?

    2- Trump is not going to seek feedback from anyone who he thinks is capable of actually stopping him. So again, I am independent of the outcomes of the decision. I have absolutely no power to change it and therefore I don't worry about it because I know that it will have, at it's greatest, a very limited long-term effect on me.

    3- I do not live in a cave, nor do I require iodine tablets because (unlike certain folk who shall remain unnamed) I'm not stupid and I know how to purify water without requiring the use of store-bought chemicals or filters. (mostly because there are no freakin' stores to buy that around here anyway)

    my entire career was the most adrenaline packed roller-coaster ride of a "game" with very little room for error and long-term consequences, with a large likelihood of fatalities for simple mistakes, and I live in the wild ... games are kinda boring, to tell the truth.

    Plus, I don't mean to be rude but: most "survivalists" wouldn't really be able to survive in any kind of post-apocalyptic world.

    Being able to build an underground bomb shelter, stock up on MRE's, water and bullets and investing in gold bullion only demonstrates you have a sh*tload too much time, money and a serious lack of critical thinking skills, IMHO. That isn't to say they are all like that, but 90% of the ones that I've ever met or seen are...

    I am not a survivalist. I am a Mountain Man. there is a huge difference.
     
  18. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    >> yes protecting the gullible with your take on the truth is always a worthy undertaking (sarc)...even if you do not understand the limitations of the scientific method and how that applies to any living thing... especially humans.

    >> I never mentioned the elimination of Trump. The word(s) I used was "independent" of Trumps decisions... I am also confident you will find a way to twist the contra to avoid admission of mistake, as you have a reputation for doing.

    >> Again ...you have "answered the wrong question". I wrote "A bit like you claiming that you can be independent of the outcomes of the decisions made by a despot called Trump." and your response is inappropriate to the subject you are supposedly responding to. All the same... your point is noted. ( see below (*) )


    >> the use of "cave" was an analogy for reclusive, isolated accommodation used by those who seek to quarantine themselves from the wider community or alternatively quarantine the wider community from themselves. No offense intended.
    >> Perhaps Iodine is used to purify radiated water, although I found no reference to it on the net.. (my bad) but mostly Iodine is consumed internally to neutralize radioactive iodine ( from Nuclear fall out - radiation) that effects the body, especially the Thyroid gland which is most susceptible to radiation poisoning.

    (*) If you were intent on surviving a major nuke war that Trump appears hell bent on instigating, Iodine would be one essential consumerable needed to increasing your life expectancy by a relatively short amount. Full time wearing of an effective rad suit would be the only option and of course not possible. Essentially if a Major nuke war was to occur there is absolutely no where to run and hide. ( in the medium to longer term.) Global background radiation would ensure an eventual global extinction event.

    I can agree with this regarding the "survivalist" at least.

    Do you live in Dakota? ( old Siox land)
    How do you get the internet if you are so remote?

    Notes:
    • Atmospheric nuclear testing (60's) raised the global background radiation level by approx. 7%.
    • Nuke accidents Chernobyl, Fukushima have also raised the Background radiation limit by an amount I have yet to determine by googling.
    • Nuke war even limited would raise the Global background radiation level by a considerable amount.
    • Radiation exposure can be directly related to the occurrence of genetic mutation, tumors and other cancers
    • Currently there is no "real" safe Human exposure rate for artificially generated background radiation beyond that which naturally occurs. ( you may recall the use of lead screens in radiography ( X-ray) sessions)
     
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  19. Truck Captain Stumpy Registered Senior Member

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    the problem isn't that I don't understand the limitations. in point of fact, that is the foundation of my current "career"

    the problem is that you don't understand the difference between levels of evidence
    again, just because you, personally, believe something to be evidence due to your bias doesn't mean that it's evidence, or even real, for that matter.

    IOW - just as I stated: you want to believe so it is evidence enough for you to completely disregard any logical or other explanation thus allowing you to have faith that your absurdity is more real than it is

    I don't think you quite understand that point
    Ok, so you want to push your strawman and argue semantics... so

    because you're unfamiliar with English:
    1- I don't state you make said claim or statement
    2- you're the one who states said idiot can override the Constitution because you're ignorant of the process
    3- if you read that using at least the 9th-grade reading level for even your area of the world, and to clarify because obvious comprehension problems, you will note that I show your ignorance because you specifically infer collusion which will lead to formal violations of the Constitution using "influence" or other means. Elimination would specifically be: removal from power. Regardless of how you parse the sentence, the bulk of the population is "independent of the outcomes of the decision."
    4- there is no twist or avoiding admission of mistakes. I can plainly point to your own posts and dictionary sources as well as other means to prove that the problem lies in your personal interpretations and biased beliefs.

    it's appropriate and relevant. Thank you for finally getting the point (I hope).

    there were better words to use than "cave", but point taken.

    As for Iodine*: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_water_purification#Iodine

    * Iodine is a potential threat if not used correctly. Like using bleach, you have to worry about toxicity, especially if you have a decent diet (or one potentially high in Iodine anyway). Iodine is a necessity for life, but it's also something that can kill you easily. see also: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1638306/pdf/envhper00309-0035.pdf
    The military still keeps Iodine and it can be used to purify water, but I would only use it as a last resort because there are safer methods. (plenty of resources out there for that one: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=iodine purification for water&t=ffnt&atb=v94-3&ia=web )
    this depends entirely on your diet
    if you have a crappy diet, you will need Iodine
    1- this depends entirely on how many nukes went off and where
    2- The statistical probability of having a global nuclear event like you are claiming is negligible at best, which is part of my point. my isolated area away from any major nuclear targets and protected by mountains gives me a considerable advantage to survival.
    3- detonation doesn't mean assured destruction and death. See: Hiroshima, Nagasaki.
    4- even a massive event that isn't a detonation doesn't mean assured death/destruction. See: Fukushima, Cherynobl, etc
    Family on Pine Ridge. Don't live there now
    depends on where I am:
    I can use the "missionary servers" which require me to use shortwave. I can use my cell phone, or I can use satellite uplink. Plus, I have family that run services in the Ozarks, so I get hooked up (pun intended).

    the internet is important to the family, so I use a lot of resources to ensure I can use it.
    you can get considerably higher background radiation just by taking a flight somewhere...
    just sayin'



    NOTE:
    there is a lot that can be discussed regarding survival, however, location is important.
     
  20. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    How do you typically (publicly) self-justify your choice to live in such isolated conditions?
    PTSD?
    Love the view?
    Trust issues?
    How?
    (of course you are under no obligation to respond)

    ... just curious...
     
  21. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    you obviously have no idea what global background radiation means...or missed it entirely...

    It is interesting to me why you seem to consistently drop words that qualify a concept/idea from your perception...and respond accordingly. ( I believe the mistakes are too obvious to be deliberate)
    Example:
    I used the word "Global" deliberately to qualify the background radiation I was discussing, yet you didn't see it, read it, or comprehend the importance of the qualification it lends to the discussion.

    ...a form of dyslexia perhaps?
     
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  22. Truck Captain Stumpy Registered Senior Member

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    one major reason is because I raise and rehabilitate wolves

    Wolves, though curious, don't typically like humans or their encroachment. As I not only live with some, I rehab some to be re-released to the wild. Those are kept isolated from humans.
    I understood: I was making a point
    seems like you missed it


    actually, I am dyslexic. But that isn't why I responded like I did
     
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    Have you seen the relatively new release movie Revenant ?
     

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