Ethics of anonymous sex stories

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by TwoBrains, Oct 16, 2020.

  1. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Is it just my imagination, or are the windmills multiplying?
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    And their hurt would be misplaced. They may think it's about them, but that's their inference. It probably isn't (a 25% chance in this example). More likely, the story is a mish mash of all encounters (and therefore sufficiently fictionalized).


    There must be some allowance for an author's right to freedom of expression, otherwise, by your logic, it would always be wrong if any author included any aspects from their real life where they interacted with anyone else.

    I do not believe that the world is as black-and-white as you make out, in terms of freedoms versus rights.
     
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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry, I don't get the metaphor.

    Perhaps you men more members are tilting at this?
     
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  7. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    They won't get anywhere, sex is ubiquitous, most likely anyone who reads the authors book will connect with it in pretty much the same way as the authors ex-lovers and suddenly you have the "Spartacus" effect.
     
  8. Bells Staff Member

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    Are you suggesting the writer does not own their own experiences?

    The writer is not borrowing from others. The writer is writing about their own experiences in a work of fiction.

    You also did not respond to:

     
  9. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Pretty simple flow chart here:

    [Considering publishing my sexual experiences]
    ..................................|
    .................................V
    .........................[Bad idea]
     
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  10. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    The only violation might be a personal ethic that A owes to B. In other words if B were to read it and know that it was describing B then B would be right to be upset with A.

    There is no violation to anyone by anyone reading this description. This isn't a good idea however for A to do this whether B learns of it or not.

    If A is a novelist and uses some past personal experience to draw on in a novel and things are changed enough then there is no issue.

    Just posting sexual experiences online seems to me to be in rather poor taste however.
     
  11. Bells Staff Member

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    Person B would be able to identify themselves in the piece if it was fairly distinct and particular and would be deemed an invasion of their privacy.

    Anyone who knew both of them or their involvement could suspect the identity of person B if say the story is published within a particular timeline for example.

    The moment people start writing about their own experiences and labelling it as such (or fail to depict that this is a fictional story or piece), suspicion will arise about those they had a sexual history with. Those people may feel as though their privacy has been invaded.

    There is also the possibility of a murkier aspect and depending on the subject matter, can make the entire thing a horror story.
     
  12. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    As far as I can see, it doesn't become a violation of person B's privacy unless or until the element of anonymity is lost. If nobody can connect or is connecting persons A and B to the account in question, then how could person B's privacy be said to have been infringed?

    I suppose that C is exploiting A's account to achieve C's own sexual gratification. Supposing A's account is an accurate account of B's sexual behaviour, then C is indirectly using part of B's personal history for C's own gratification. However, I think it would be tenuous to try to draw the conclusion that C is therefore exploiting B.

    Don't tell me you can't tell the difference between a scenario in which B is anonymous and one in which B is clearly identifiable (?)
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    From a moral perspective, if you're concerned about B in this scenario, maybe a good place to start would be to ask whether, and in what way(s), B is harmed by the actions of A and/or C.

    Suppose B becomes aware of A's account and is upset that A would publish that account without B's consent. In that case, B suffers an emotional harm. Since it was in A's power to prevent that harm, then A has probably acted immorally towards B. But that was not the question you asked. You asked whether A has violated B's privacy. As long as B remains unidentified and unidentifiable, then I can't see how A could be said to have violated B's privacy. In reality, of course, there may be many ways in which the identity of B might eventually come to light, even if A has every intention of maintaining the anonymity. If, for whatever reason, B's identity becomes known, then further moral questions will arise as to the extent of A's moral culpability in publishing the account without the consent of B.

    In C's case, according to your scenario, C is merely using the account for the purposes of his or her own sexual satisfaction. I can't see any way in which C's masturbation could harm B, at least as long as B is unaware of it. C has no way of establishing that the account is factual rather than fictional, so I don't see how C could be blamed for violating or exploiting B, unless you are of the opinion that anybody who uses pornography for their own personal sexual gratification is commiting some kind of moral wrong merely by doing that act.
     

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