English/British

Discussion in 'Linguistics' started by pjdude1219, Jun 5, 2010.

  1. pjdude1219 screw watergate i want to know about zaragate Valued Senior Member

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    I have noted people using english to refer to the UK and to this I have to say stop. the English and the British are not fucking interchangeable. the first refers to the country of England while the second refers to people who reside in the state that is the union of the states of Wales, Scotland, England, and Northern Ireland.
     
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  3. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    The two are (loosely) interchangeable (noting that you mentioned three terms - U.K, English and British...sigh!) if you are both British and English which of course all the Poms are.
     
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  5. Killjoy Propelling The Farce!! Valued Senior Member

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    I just use the term Perfidious Albion, and then refer to it's inhabitants as the Albionese.

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  7. Anti-Flag Pun intended Registered Senior Member

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    You'd be surprised how few people outside of the UK realise that. Along with not knowing the Republic of Ireland is separate from the UK.
    In fairness, the British are probably just as ignorant of similar things elsewhere in the world. And by British, I mostly mean the Welsh.

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  8. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    I resent these vicious and accurate slurs on my partial heritage. If we were in Wales, I would happily drink your blood for it, or a band of us would terrify you with our close-harmony singing.

    "The Welsh pray on their knees...and on their neighbours."

    - Benny Hill​
     
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  9. Anti-Flag Pun intended Registered Senior Member

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    Well if I had any Zulu heritage I'd be quaking.

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  10. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    "Don't trow...dat speah...at me."

    - Michael Caine using his natural accent, Zulu
     
  11. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Or just buy him a one-way ticket to Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.
     
  12. Omega133 Aus der Dunkelheit Valued Senior Member

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    How easily this thread got derailed.

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  13. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Michael Caine is Mongolian?

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  14. Omega133 Aus der Dunkelheit Valued Senior Member

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    Good movie.
     
  15. wsionynw Master Queef Valued Senior Member

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    As a Brit that is 50% Welsh and 50% English I take great offence at that remark......the English are far more ignorant than the Welsh.
     
  16. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Not surprising, considering that most American students think Canada is an American state, can't find Ohio on a map (perhaps even if they live there), and don't really understand what people mean when they use names like "Iraq."
    Well naming those little pieces of land "The British Isles" doesn't help at all!
    Yes. How many of you call people from Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia "Yankees"? That is exactly as outrageous and insulting as calling a Scotsman "English."

    But hey, the people who call themselves "British" aren't, really. The Britons were the Celtic tribe who inhabited most of southern Britannia (its Roman name, or Albion if you prefer the Greek name) from around 1000BCE up through the Roman Era. When the Romans left, Germanic "barbarian" tribes (Angles, Saxons and Jutes) took the opportunity to invade and occupy the land and marginalize the Britons. They became known as Anglo-Saxons. Their country was called Angle-Land (which changed phonetically into "England"), their language was Anglisc (now "English"), they were often collectively referred to as simply Saxons, and the landscape is covered with regions with names like East Anglia and West Saxony (now Wessex).

    The Normans invaded England in 1066 and occupied the country for... well actually they never left. They intermarried with the locals and created an Anglo-Norman people. They even stopped speaking Norman French and adopted English in the 14th century, but there has been no discontinuity of government.

    Nonetheless their descendants now call themselves Britons.

    That would be rather like me calling myself a Potawatomi because I was born in Chicago.

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  17. Gypsi Registered Senior Member

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    Sure, an English person is also British but if you are talking about "British" people it is not correct to say "English" people.

    As a Brit who is 100% Scottish I am in no way English.
     
  18. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    This thread makes me miss Lucifer's Angel. I know she would have a thing or two to say considering she was Welsh.
     
  19. John99 Banned Banned

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    Are you serious? I never heard those things, though admittedly i dont use maps, dont particularly care for them.
     
  20. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    My husband just today said "Hey! Did you know Newfoundland is part of Canada?" :wallbang:

    Most Americans are NOT good at Geography
     
  21. John99 Banned Banned

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    That i true but nothing like what he claimed.
     
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  22. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I collected stamps as a kid. Learned all about geography that way
     
  23. John99 Banned Banned

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    I never knew stamps had geography on them.

    Edit: i am going to edit that post, maybe i will post it for some insight in another thread.
     

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