End of Infinity

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Votorx, Aug 13, 2005.

  1. absols Registered Member

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    the way u reason is totally opposite to mine

    there cant b different numbers, objective is always one reality the most superior one including everything existing

    this is how there is only one objective and plural freedoms so individuality, they are not numbers when they have to b objective in certain perspective of existing themselves constantly since alone

    ur ways of reasonnin is always meanin outcomes so creations justifications which are lies since it is clear now how all is done by force and hitting, it has nothing to do with the real states of things, it is always regarding the powers on things wills

    i see ur religious means trinity to square, and hre again it shows how u dont mean any infinity u mean only an argument for god powers

    i will reply to that wat i said before, infinity is always so it is not between numbers while it is always the void, which prove that there is no numbers

    nature is positive lies so natural numbers are only the way of natural evil life

    it is amazing how u can believe that u individually are more then infinite while u cant b present since u never realize anything since u always are from what u get of living realities

    how for u infinity is like some things to know and use like dead tools say a lot of what evil is always from
     
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  3. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    Punctuation & spelling - you might want to look into them... At least, if you want anybody to have a clue as to what you're trying to say. (And if you don't, then why bother?)
     
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  5. absols Registered Member

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    u have no right to judge my style of writing, im free to give my opinions on ur sarcastic wills
    for me it is disgusting how u dare think puting infinite in sandwich between numbers u control or know

    nobody need any clue, when it is obvious that ur reasons are evil so the more right is said the more evil live from enjoying to abuse it

    that is how my mean is opposite to what u think, that if i might think any mean to my free expression and reactions rights which is not ur business and nothing to justify, all to evil revelation being all, so anything u say or mean to do is a lie

    wat is funny is how u talk to ur opposite of rules that it must respect too

    it shows the arrogant u r

    who made those rules, what is ur argument how ur ennemy would care about giving u wat u want

    u have no idea how to argue with others, u cant face a fight in words

    which exhibit the religious u r puting all his faith on else powers to pretend being a philosopher or brave
     
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  7. Arioch Valued Senior Member

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    @Gmilam --

    Phew, you've got one hell of a cookie here. Good luck with that.
     
  8. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    I have too little time to waste any of it on fools. Welcome to ignore.
     
  9. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    for life?

    because every possible amount of money between three and four dollars is a finite amount since the lowest denomination is 1 cent, unlike just a number.
    So every possible amount of money between three and four dollars would be something like this: 3.01+3.02+3.03...+3.99, a total sum of 346 dollars and 50 cents for your entire life.
    Taking an average of 80 years per our human lifespan, you would have a little more than 1 cent per each day to spend for everything. See how far that goes.

    nor is arrogance a quality of an intellect.
     
  10. sanam5511 Registered Member

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    some deep sh*t you going out there....still trying to gather my thoughts and contemplate your theory
     
  11. Pincho_Paxton Banned Banned

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    There are no numbers in the Universe, just physics. Infinity is physics, like the physics of a circle.. ends that join together. You have to remember that the Universe is all about physics, and you have to break free of maths, and think in shapes, and forces. Now some of you talk about time having a beginning.. time is physics also. It is a stage of motion...

    You walk into a room, the juggler is already juggling 3 balls in a circular motion. You do not know which ball he threw first. So all you see is a circular motion, and you do not know it's beginning. That is time. Physics that are in a completely looped series of motions.

    Infinity is time looped to create motions that have no beginning or end.
     
  12. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Some interesting thoughts there PP!
    Prompted the question:
    "Infinity as described commonly, can only exist with time. Time is also infinite [ whether we perceive or believe in a beginning and end or not, is irrelevant]
    so if the existence of infinity is dependent on infinite time are the two infinities the same infinity?

    Surely time is dependent on substance [volume] just as much as substance is dependent on time.
    ...or something to that effect...
    |
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    --------------eternity
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    (infinity)
    t=0
     
  13. arfa brane call me arf Valued Senior Member

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    There is one big problem with infinity only existing in time: at t = 0, the universe had infinite density and energy.
    How is this possible if time had a value of 0?
    It's possible if energy can exist independently of time, so PP's explanation doesn't stand up (if it's true that the universe had infinite energy without time).

    If there are no numbers in the universe, does that mean there's nothing to count? If it does, why does the universe contain observers who count ('things')?
     
  14. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    excellent point!
    For surely it takes time for something to exist. if time has zero duration then nothing can exist.

    therefore one could conclude that time duration = energy or energy = time duration.
    that energy is movement [ time ]

    So therefore infinity [volume at t=0] is dependent on infinite time [energy - eternity - entropy]

    Totally circular and self justifying.. as it needs to be..IMO

    So when you read E=mc^2
    read
    Time duration = mc^2
    as a mental exercise...
    better still:
    try
    Eternity = mc^2

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  15. Pincho_Paxton Banned Banned

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    We have circulating systems on Earth, like Water to steam to cloud to rain, to water. The Universe could just re-organise itself. The Milky Way would be like a cloud, and we moved to this position from the outskirts of observation, then the Milky Way breaks down into the equivalent of water again. That's also infinity.
     
  16. arfa brane call me arf Valued Senior Member

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    That's a standard objection to the theory: how can anything have existed if time didn't exist?
    The theory appears to get around the problem by invoking the principle that the universe after one Planck-second of time was essentially the same universe (with a very small volume). So that appears to mean that Planck time isn't measurable.
     
  17. Pincho_Paxton Banned Banned

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    The way that you think of time doesn't register with me. I can't follow the logic. All I do is eliminate time dilation with theoretical physics. Once you eliminate time dilation there is no proof left that time isn't just a change of energy states. What's wrong with just changing direction inside X/Y/Z. So if X/Y/Z is a point that point has a core which is time a change in direction like an apple core in a sphere. The core travels down the centre, the sphere is the X/Y/Z.. time is the core forcing out the sphere. So we live in a world of atoms, and X/Y/Z is always a membrane, we never get to be a part of the core of an atom. So those forces are inside X/Y/Z.
     
  18. absols Registered Member

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    i cant focus on such relative justifications, but from reading fast i think u have the right answer to time

    time is like cancer, smthg that would die after a while that cant last by itself so must b of else will force, and what surely cant, even with all forces for, stand forever

    like genders too like opposites...all these concepts are to serve creations outside of the true existence dimension

    so actually time is essentially about taking advantage of the present so forcing the advantage as the replacement to it

    bc im true they call me a thing, which show how shit is all, there is no least consideration or respect to true existence from any god
     
  19. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    If I am not mistaken the Planck moment [scale] is an arbitrary construct, merely an abstraction in an attempt to facilitate further understandings. [In other words the Planck unit does not exist except as a human abstraction. [Same with "infinitesimals"]
     
  20. Mathers2013 Banned Banned

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    I believe time will never end...
     
  21. rr6 Banned Banned

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    Rational Logical On A Roll........

     
  22. Anew Life isn't a question. Banned

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    rr6,

    I like your equations for "space (ethereal)

    Perhaps non-occupied space where material is involved (<man made material) the number for unoccupied space may be the number 5.

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    In subject of inifinite ethereal I innocently like 11 and 8, perhaps then 9 and beginning again with 1.
     
  23. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    @rr6
    The point was badly expressed , sorry..
    try:
    For infinite volume to exist at any given t=0 duration moment, time,movement, change thus energy must also be eternal [time*infinity] [entropy].

    Simply put:
    It is like this:
    Gravity is a phenomena that occurs at any t=0
    But can only do so if time is eternal. For with out Time there is no gravity - a totally self justifying and self generating system

    have another look at the quick and badly done diagram:

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    and possibly see if you can get the gist of what I am proposing...
     

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