Egyptian girl strips to protest; western media censors her photos

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by S.A.M., Nov 20, 2011.

  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Just remembered, its an Afghan woman in the X-Men comics series

    For some reason, she is not wearing the Afghan chaddor

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    but she is veiled

    http://marvel.com/universe/Dust

    That would certainly explain why there is an independent lens documentary on it and why the person behind the comic and the person who made the movie on the comic both find themselves talking about American resistance to the topic
     
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  3. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    One wonders what one is supposed to be able to infer from the mere existence of an Independent Lens documentary. Perhaps you could tell us about some of the other Independent Lens documentaries that you've seen, and relate the motivations for their production, so that we can see how this inference is supposed to work? Is it your contention that any subject of an Independent Lens documentary is, by default, a politically controversial phenomenon?

    The best explanation for both of those things is exactly that The 99, and the narrative about American TV execs resisting it for ideological reasons, makes great fodder for the Independent Lens audience, and plays into the PR narrative that its producers have ridden to success so far.

    It's worth keeping in mind that the entire motivation for turning The 99 into an animated series and pitching it to US television, is exactly that it does not sell enough to turn a profit in any of the Arabic-language markets it already appears in, despite warm reception from the media there and open backing of local politicians. Remove that agenda from the decision-making - leave it up to a bunch of executives who only care about profit - and the lack of airtime doesn't seem to demand anything beyond simple profit motive in the way of explanation. Of course, the producers of such could never simply admit that - and certainly, not in the documentary about them which is their big chance to pitch their product to a wider audience - so, unsurprisingly, we get a self-serving narrative about how their great, profitable product is being censored due to bigotry.

    But, answer me this: have you read or watched any episodes of The 99? Did you pay to do so? Would you pay to read/view more of such? Do you have any reason to assert that anyone stands to make any money by distributing such? Or is the whole production simply a political football?
     
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  5. Hellenologophobia Registered Senior Member

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    All joking and censorship aside, it’s a shame that the April 6 youth movement distanced themselves from her. Novemeber 25th was designated as the international day for the elimination of violence against women. For any real man, gender violence is hard to stomach.

    Afghan Woman's Choice
     
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  7. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, man, even woman is made naked. Get over it Muslims, women are your eaquals.
     
  8. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    The point is that it was scheduled for release to The Hub and then it was pulled, a year ago so your commentary is superfluous

     
  9. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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    The case of Gulnaz was being discussed on CBC Radio just two days ago. It's hard to fathom the logic by which a woman who has herself been dishonored and harmed by rape should be imprisoned for the crime against her, and face the real possibility of an 'honor killing' by either her own family or that of the rapist if she is released.

    I am having difficulty getting my head around that, no matter what direction I approach it from.
     
  10. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    This could be because they consider her "damaged goods" - and damaged goods are best to be discarded.

    This logic is not limited to some Muslim and Indian nations.

    It seems to be something that everyone struggles with, and expresses it in some way or other.


    Ever noticed how people tend to desert the one who has been a victim of crime?
     
  11. Me-Ki-Gal Banned Banned

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    It is all Men but Me . I am the only one standing . The last Man standing .

    Why didn't someone tell Me James was a Christian Frat Man . God what is the matter with you girls . That one caught Me off guard . I got banned for not understanding that . It hurt so much to be away from you . It broke my heart . I cried a lot . He is in trouble with the Most Gracious now . I hate to see what happens to him . See that is the thing you sleepers don't understand . I am rubber you are glue . It bounces off of Me and sticks to the bad lands .

    I am God . I know I insinuated I might not say it anymore , yet I left the door open so you could sneak right in . Don't fence Me in


    Goofy your freaking out . Get a grip Man . They don't know . They are sleepers . James too . You woke up bro !!! You made it to heaven . It is just like they say . The one next to you will not be taken while you are .
    I lived with it for a long time . Like I been trying to tell someone from my very birth . " THere Is A Monster under Me bed . Your my first confirmed Case Bro . Don't freak out cause it is all for a reason . Slow down and get a hold of your self . It is the hidden language
     
  12. Emil Valued Senior Member

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    Welcome back, Man.
     
  13. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    From what I understood, the purpose of Muslim women wearing concealing clothes is that only the husband may see his wife.

    The belief that there are things about a woman that only her husband may see or touch, seems universal, inherent in (almost) all human cultures.

    This belief manifests in action differently in different cultures - Muslim women need to wear clothing that conceals their whole body, a Westerner's wife may be requested to wear clothes that don't show her cleavage etc. etc.



    That said: it's not like this is a men vs. women issue, as if there would be a conspiracy of men against women.

    Let's not forget who teaches all those Muslim boys to become the sort of Muslim men who they are: women.
     
  14. Me-Ki-Gal Banned Banned

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    Thank you Thank you Thank you very much
     
  15. Me-Ki-Gal Banned Banned

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    Wynn why do they do that ? How long you going to be a beast of burden ? When you gonna wake up to your gender roll in life . Are you not tired of the abuse ? Your a woman right ? Christianity says plain and clear the woman is to be subservient to the husband . How long you going to live that lie? Men are pussy hounds . That is why they are called Dogs. They need to be treated like the dogs they are
     
  16. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    I am sure some men are like that; I am also sure not all of them are like that, just as I am sure that humans have more potential than dogs.
     
  17. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    It seems that men and women are simply playing power games with eachother, in every way they can.
     
  18. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Nope, Muslim Religious leaders who are ALL male, and Muslim men and women don't worship together (something about the woman having to put their butts in the air when they kiss the ground that is not allowed around men).

    Women are all but absent from Islamic public and intellectual life....
    May the Muslim community in North America lead the way in producing the first Muslim woman jurist in more than two centuries.


    (note a Muslim jurist would be a religious leader)

    http://www.themodernreligion.com/women/recognition.html
     
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  19. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    In Muslim countries, by whom are children raised?

    When a boy is born, is he immediately given over to the care of an all-male society?
     
  20. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    You under-estimate the power of Islamic religious teaching.

    Or do you believe a woman is going to teach her son something other than what is taught at the Mosque?
     
  21. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Bottomline:

    It is Muslim women themselves who help in raising their sons into the kind of Muslim men that they are and that some people take objection to, considering them misogynist.

    There is no male Muslim conspiracy against women.
     
  22. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    You know, it's not bloody Dune or something over there.
     
  23. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Considering that the religion in most countries is all Male and that the govt and religion have no separation, then yes it is most definitely a male oriented conspiracy against women.

    That's why the Muslim men get all the power, rules and court judgments in their favor and Islamic women get to wear Burqas and can get punished for being raped.

    You think they wouldn't really get in hot water if they taught something else besides the approved orthodoxy to their sons?
     

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