Edible pot

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  1. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Tea with water won't work at all. If you use a tincture with alcohol, like everclear, you should bake the ground weed at a low temperature (200-220 F) for half an hour first to make it orally active.
     
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  3. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    What is the high like with pot? Is it like an alcohol buzz? Or are you just very relaxed?
     
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  5. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Kind of like asking, "What is sex like with a woman?"

    It rather depends on the woman.
     
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  7. brucep Valued Senior Member

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    It's magical. All kidding aside. The only reason you want to compare the effects of drinking alcohol with ingesting cannabis is because of all the nonsense non scientific literature trying to put cannabis in a category with alcohol abuse. Alcohol makes you stupid and unaware of what's going on around you. Don't expect that to happen when you ingest cannabis. But .... Keep in mind the 'without seed', sensimilia, is very potent for the uninitiated. You should smoke before you ingest just to get an idea about psychoactive effects. Just do 'half a toke' and wait to see how it effects you the first time. Tell us how it goes for you. Choose a light sativa strain. By light I mean something with THC content around 12 to 15 percent. This doesn't mean it's not as good but just a bit more 'Donovan'. Mellow yellow. Don't choose a heavy couch lock strain. That's for folks who don't want to be observant for awhile. Much of the difference is discovered in the harvesting.

    BTW start with some leafy shake to insure your survival. Just kiddin.
     
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  8. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    I would say you were more of a magic mushroom person MR.
     
  9. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks for the good information. I WILL tell you how it goes. Hopefully I'll be able to post while high? lol!
     
  10. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    I'd be worried about puking my guts out. I HATE throwing up, and that prospect alone deters me from seeking it out.
     
  11. brucep Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly. The following is why you have to cook it.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation

    If you just eat it without decarboxylation it has 0 psychoactive potency. As THCa no psychoactive effects. As THCa it still has medicinal value as evidenced by the weed maps chart I linked for the Magical Realist. When you smoke the decarboxylation occurs when you vaporize the flower. Speaking of flowers. The variety of wonderful smells from genetic strain to genetic strain is really wonderful. These flowers create oils called terpenes which vaporize between 65 and 80 degrees F. The first stage of cure is to do an ~ 72 hour initial dry out followed by a 96 hour 'paper bagged' continuation of the dry out. This should be conducted in the dark at < 65F to insure the terpenes don't begin to vaporize during the curing process. The final stage of cure is to jar the flowers and let them do their thing. During this phase you should vent the jars to gas off and introduce new air. You can smoke the Jared flowers but it just gets better and better as the cure progresses. Key is IN THE DARK during the entire curing process followed by IN THE DARK until you spark it. No baggies which leech the moisture and downgrade your cure. Jars. Preferably jars that protect from exposure to light. Black, green. The grow and cure room should only have green light available for use during the flowering and curing. The bulb you can hold in your hand when it's on. Green light is dark to cannabis. It's called greenhouse lighting. Probably more information than you think you'll need but if anybody wants to deliver the cannabis in baggies it's a good idea to question whether they know what they're doing. You should always keep your pot in the dark, Jared, and in a cool spot during storage. If this is done correctly the flowers will maintain potency for a long time. Have some flowers which have been Jared for over a year and a half. Still righteous. A continuing experiment to observe the potency time line. There's a wonderful text by Ed Rosenthal entitled Marijuana Growers Handbook. Cool science.
     
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  12. Amar Nath Reu Be your own guru Registered Senior Member

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    I am surprised that people smoke pot. In India it is a cool drink - made into a paste, put in milk with sugar, almonds, black pepper, etc. People take it every day in the evening before meals. I do not know how it affects them. Long time back, when we were kids, my brother and myself were offered milk sweets laced with pot (Bhang), rambled in our talk and developed fever. It is a must on Holi, the festival of colors.
     
  13. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    That's an economic issue. The most cost-effective ways to ingest most drugs (medical or recreational) are by inhalation and/or rectally. The nose, the lungs and the colon are extremely efficient at the job of getting drugs into the bloodstream.

    The stomach and the small intestine are much less efficient and effective. Not only does eating marijuana (so the THC is absorbed through the walls of the stomach and the small intestine) take rather a long time to start feeling "high" (typically at least 30 minutes before any effect is felt at all, and as long as 90 minutes before the process is complete), but the process is terribly inefficient.

    Most people can get reasonably stoned by smoking a fraction of a gram of dried marijuana leaves. To achieve the same effect by ingesting requires an entire gram or more. In a quasi-police state like the USA where marijuana is regarded by the authorities as a "dangerous drug" and therefore must be purchased from criminals and terrorists, a gram of cannabis costs about $35.

    It's simply too expensive for the average citizen to indulge in getting high by eating marijuana.
     
  14. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    it's usually intense for some time at first. over time it may become less effective. that's when you will be whining for more potency.
    then you will be whining for marijuana legalities. like the rest of us.

    PS-
    i love shrooms
     
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  15. Amar Nath Reu Be your own guru Registered Senior Member

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    Cost is no problem in India. I think it is quite cheap. Actully, some people even collect it from places where it grows wild (even in New Delhi). Time also is not a constraint. People are not in a hurry to get high. Moreover, the drink is iced, tasty (milk and sugar), and tangy (black pepper). That is the right way to enjoy (however, I have no practical experience, though I would have liked that)
     
  16. Anew Life isn't a question. Banned

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    ^beautiful up above.
    Seems pot is referred with and as such a prosaic word as "pot' as one can presume for it's greater regard;
    let's say one is working for it's "policy'.. one looks at the word "pot' and then discerns of the ethical "pot' involved and therefore edicts policy to determine it's use and corporate/legal government permittance.

    'thee comment of people being in a "hurry to get so called "nummy high etc...is an ethical matter based on allowance and affordance. Seems all mood altering substances are virtually "at your own risk, without the wisdom of what the behavioral risks are; rather 'like cigarettes..a lean get's advertised based on variability's of consumption w/ physical threat: rather than focusing on behavioral realisms involved with use of the drugs like alchohol/liquor as well. yeah that "nummy high: hah condoms should even be sold with the behavioral warnings ..Yeah it could tear is mentioned and then a two beings would 'have to be accountable possibly for ANOTHER human being.. yet there is never a mention of the fact that sexx can be a escapist dummer from practical accountability and realism just like frequency of lushing too much too far and too long with any of the above substances. food, and music, media too really gets- $$$expensive and variably debt creating for self,, intersocially and just whatever,, standard hah

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    I guess keeping oneself busied by emmersive worships created by man, creates verbal inadequacy, and perceptive delay.
     
  17. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    [Lil' Wyte, Acid]

    Chorus 1:
    Well I've been trippin' for 10 hours on 3 hits of liquid microdot (I'm on acid - acid)
    Gettin' chased around the car by some midgets in the parking lot (I'm on acid - acid)
    Feedin' doritos to a tree, a million spiders after me (I'm on acid - acid)
    I'm runnin' around havin' a fit, on myself I'm about to shit (I'm on acid - acid)

    [Lil' Wyte]
    could you imagine feelin' all calm then all of the sudden your fingers get numb?
    feet start freezin', what is the season?
    where we at? and why we leaving?
    Trees are shrinkin', turnin' plants to roots and roots back into seeds
    And clowns are changin', comin' at me, different directions now I'm freakin'
    Toes are rakin', body shakin'
    Mane, I thought it was some crack
    Called the fire department, told 'em I had a flame upon my back
    This shit's crazy, plus enable, razors dancing on the table
    There's the horse, we got a horse, yeah we do and I've seen the stable
    Quit your flaugin, I ain't flaugin
    Got a beat in who you're talking to
    I'm talking to you talking to me
    Listenin' 'cause I have you and I have to
    Be kinda smart to even catch that
    I might be trippin' but the pimpin' grippin' gotta spit that
    With no expectancy I made a party from a robbery
    Accidentally, kicked then tripped the thief when he had ran by me
    Fuck police, we're gonna sentence this trick here to LSD
    50 shot of purple microdot you will be gone a week

    Chorus 2:
    20-20 vision blur and can't even feel the syrup (I'm on acid - acid)
    I can smoke a pound of dro, drink myself under the floor (I'm on acid - acid)
    Put the straw up to your nose, take the blow straight to your dome (I'm on acid - acid)
    You passin' out in my front yard, throwin' up on Xanax bars (I'm on acid - acid)

    [Lil' Wyte]
    Well, I wishing I was sober, feel the shit from head to shoulders
    This ain't even halfway over, it's the part I'm waiting to show you
    Laughin' long time like hyenas, laughed a long time at vienas
    In the can or out the can they still look like a can a penis
    I'm the meanest, acid-taking, down-south-cracker on the mic
    Change start crankin', got you thinkin', good trip gonna turn to a fright
    Bubble popping, trails are watchin', foes done cross the fuckin' room
    A dog came in the den and made a mess and then asked for the broom
    Now I'm about hit the sack 'cause I can't take this shit no more
    Relax my mind, take a deep breath and let my head sink in pillow
    Take a seven hour nap, wake up seven minutes later
    This the greatest drug the seventies is ever fucking gave us
    Yes it's major don't be playin' - when you drop it will hit you
    If it's gel caps or liquid - microdots yes I'm with you
    And I'm flippin' cross the Roll, visual contact lightning globe
    The space ship I'm flying landed in the Bay - I have to go

    Chorus 3:
    By now, I'm weak in some pain and my body's feeling drained (I'm on acid - acid)
    Comin' down upon my trip and my skin's about rip (I'm on acid - acid)
    I'll probably sleep till Thursday and it's only Sunday (I'm on acid - acid)
    Wakin' up on that Thursday to have another Saturday (I'm on acid - acid)

     
  18. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    i re-posted this becuase i left out a couple of lines on the chorus.

    [Lil' Wyte, Acid]

    Chorus 1:
    Well I've been trippin' for 10 hours on 3 hits of liquid microdot (I'm on acid - acid)Man, what's this suppose to do to us anyway man?
    Gettin' chased around the car by some midgets in the parking lot (I'm on acid - acid)Hey, is that midget coming over here?
    Feedin' doritos to a tree, a million spiders after me (I'm on acid - acid)Oh come on, I bet you can't eat just one
    I'm runnin' around havin' a fit, on myself I'm about to shit (I'm on acid - acid)Man, I gotta get to a toilet Dogg

    [Lil' Wyte]
    could you imagine feelin' all calm then all of the sudden your fingers get numb?
    feet start freezin', what is the season?
    where we at? and why we leaving?
    Trees are shrinkin', turnin' plants to roots and roots back into seeds
    And clowns are changin', comin' at me, different directions now I'm freakin'
    Toes are rakin', body shakin'
    Mane, I thought it was some crack
    Called the fire department, told 'em I had a flame upon my back
    This shit's crazy, plus enable, razors dancing on the table
    There's the horse, we got a horse, yeah we do and I've seen the stable
    Quit your flaugin, I ain't flaugin
    Got a beat in who you're talking to
    I'm talking to you talking to me
    Listenin' 'cause I have you and I have to
    Be kinda smart to even catch that
    I might be trippin' but the pimpin' grippin' gotta spit that
    With no expectancy I made a party from a robbery
    Accidentally, kicked then tripped the thief when he had ran by me
    Fuck police, we're gonna sentence this trick here to LSD
    50 shot of purple microdot you will be gone a week

    Chorus 2:
    20-20 vision blur and can't even feel the syrup (I'm on acid - acid)Man, I can't believe this stuff is stronger than that syrup
    I can smoke a pound of dro, drink myself under the floor (I'm on acid - acid)I can't even feel none of these beers, man my eyes ain't red
    Put the straw up to your nose, take the blow straight to your dome (I'm on acid - acid)I Don't even mess with that snort Dogg, I'm trippin'
    You passin' out in my front yard, throwin' up on Xanax bars (I'm on acid - acid)Looks like you took about one two many of them pills

    [Lil' Wyte]
    Well, I wishing I was sober, feel the shit from head to shoulders
    This ain't even halfway over, it's the part I'm waiting to show you
    Laughin' long time like hyenas, laughed a long time at vienas
    In the can or out the can they still look like a can a penis
    I'm the meanest, acid-taking, down-south-cracker on the mic
    Change start crankin', got you thinkin', good trip gonna turn to a fright
    Bubble popping, trails are watchin', foes done cross the fuckin' room
    A dog came in the den and made a mess and then asked for the broom
    Now I'm about hit the sack 'cause I can't take this shit no more
    Relax my mind, take a deep breath and let my head sink in pillow
    Take a seven hour nap, wake up seven minutes later
    This the greatest drug the seventies is ever fucking gave us
    Yes it's major don't be playin' - when you drop it will hit you
    If it's gel caps or liquid - microdots yes I'm with you
    And I'm flippin' cross the Roll, visual contact lightning globe
    The space ship I'm flying landed in the Bay - I have to go

    Chorus 3:
    By now, I'm weak in some pain and my body's feeling drained (I'm on acid - acid)Man, I feel like I can't even walk no more
    Comin' down upon my trip and my skin's about rip (I'm on acid - acid)I feel my hands hurting
    I'll probably sleep till Thursday and it's only Sunday (I'm on acid - acid)I can't wait to hit my bed man
    Wakin' up on that Thursday to have another Saturday (I'm on acid - acid)Man, I can't wait till I find some more of that shit
     
  19. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Dictionary.com says that the use of "pot" as slang for "marijuana" goes back to the Mexican immigrants who first popularized the drug in the USA. It is a contraction of "Spanish potiguaya or potaguaya, which in turn is probably a contraction of potaciĆ³n de guaya: wine or brandy in which marijuana buds have been steeped."

    PotaciĆ³n de guaya means, literally, "drink of grief."
     
  20. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    yesca is the word i know of.
     
  21. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    They have as many slang terms for it as we do. The one I heard most often in Los Angeles was mota.
     
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