E=mc2 questions?

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  1. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    I understand bad science, that is why I have my ideas from your own bad science, I am not being arrogant in saying this, I truly believe that present information is not quite accurate.
     
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    Thank you for the answers, can you please explain to me how the weather works with low and high pressure? when comparing to gravity how can low and high pressure have no effect on pressure on the surface if we monitor low and high pressure?
    I thank you in advance for improving my knowledge on pressure etc.
     
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    The good science is we are talking about a wide range of science , this thread is informative to all, my opinions do not count, I already stated I will always think in reverse to get the answers in reply.
     
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    P.s - To all members, I will quickly explain myself, I can be you if I chose to be you and I can chose to think and accept the same as you. I am not the fool you think I am, I know your science to a good level, I have a theory of everything and can explain all and can Unify the entire Universe.
    You will define me to be repetitive, that is because over and over I am checking I have the correct understanding of the facts, I need a certainty to be sure of the facts I understand to make conclusions of the facts.

    Added _ I appeal to the mods good judgement and ask you do not bin me, I am no harm in this section and you can clearly see my strange learning style, you can see that while I spout my ideas I am also gaining valuable knowledge in return, I thank you for understanding and patience.
     
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    I have had a thought, in Denver Colorado there is a slight gravity difference, there is also a surface pressure difference, less gravity and also less surface pressure by the mass of air, are you saying this is coincidence?


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    =2.2lbF?


    You asked for an experiment I am looking for one.
     
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    I see it this way, - You start with water m=1kg, the water by energy gain evaporates, m=1kg decreases of the water when energy is added.

    1kg=9.81n, 9.81n decreases when you add energy to water.

    1kg=2.2lbF on the surface, 2.2lbF also decreases when you add energy to water.

    I also see that when you add energy to water in the means of more water, then all the values increase the same has adding energy to metal,the metal expands and has a slight mass increase when you add energy, showing energy has a ''weight'' on gravity.

    I am also thinking air and gases along the same lines of thought.

    This is where I am currently at in my thinking.

    P.s we already know that Hydrogen's thermodynamic gain is greater than loss and the oxygen in the water has more mass than the Hydrogen and needs an higher energy to oppose gravity

    If it were not for the o, in H2o, all the water would fly off.

    added - the more I think about it the more it sounds logically accurate.

    Hydrogen is already ''buoyant'', the energy added to water makes the air to become more ''buoyant'', I put buoyant in brackets, because in effect, helium and Hydrogen are anti-gravitational, Buoyancy is something that happens on water and anti gravitational in the means of spreading its mass out, making a solidity of the waters density equal to the mass of the object.


    But I know nothing and am useless of cause.
     
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    An increase in energy in the atmosphere will decrease the pressure of the atmosphere on the surface of the Earth, the PSI is reduced by high pressure, high pressure containing more energy in the form of heat than a low pressure system.

    An increase in the atmospheric pressure will increase the PSI on the surface , the oceans pressure rise has the pressure of the atmosphere rises, the oceans then increase the pressure on the oceans floor.
    If we add energy to decrease the centripetal pressure of the atmosphere, then we can conclude if we lose energy the pressure increases, we can also conclude that the pressure is equal to mass, and equal to gravity being the force in which the energies within the mass are attracted and held by ''gravity'' of mass, gravity being energy based.
     
  11. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    The air pressure is indeed lower in Denver than it is at sea level. But it has nothing to do with the difference in gravity. Air is a fluid and therefore when you are at a higher point in the fluid there is less weight of the fluid above you so the pressure is lower. That is it. If this was due to gravity differences you would see a difference in the weight of an object at sea level versus Denver, which of course you cannot measure.

    Before you 'dig your heels in' and start saying idiotic things, do yourself a favor and google air pressure versus altitude and try to learn something.
     
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    Whilst I look up air pressure versus altitude, although I do not see it being relative to what I am asking about, I will leave you with this question.

    Are you saying that if energy is high in an isolated pressure system has in weather systems, that the surface pressure psi is not reduced?

    Are you saying that +E does not equal -P?
     
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    less weight meaning less newtons meaning less gravity, I can not see a valid argument, +E=-P, -E=+P, P=G, G=N, N=lbF.

    I think this logical argument and your own facts shows you I am correct.


    E=mc2 - E =G?

    but how do we account for mass when that is already accounted for being equal to gravity?

    m=0?

    Or is there another calculation for energy in a volume of matter?
     
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    In doing the formula to my idea I have this -

    +E=-P=-G=-N=-lbF psi


    -E=+P=+G=+N=+lbF psi
     
  15. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    No, energy does not equal pressure.

    Pressure times the volume (of an ideal gas) is equal to its energy.

    Force and energy are not the same either.

    Rather than making stuff up, just ask.
     
  16. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    I tried to keep you from looking idiotic but to no avail....
    If you measure the pressure at about 32 feet underwater you will find that the pressure is about 15 psi greater than at the surface. Do you think that is because the gravity is higher? The correct answer to the question is NO. The pressure is higher because there is 32 feet of water pushing down at that point. The pressure at sea level is about 14.7 psi and that is due to the weight of the air pressing on you. If you go to Denver you will be higher in the air so there will be less weight pushing on you which means less pressure, not less gravity.

    Is this stuff really that difficult for you, or are you just jerking us around?
     
  17. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Often falling barometric pressure is an indication that the weather is about to turn bad (storms etc.) Is that what you meant? Because a single post really isn't enough to "explain how the weather works."

    If barometric pressure is high in a given location, gravity is exactly the same.
    If barometric pressure is low in a given location, gravity is exactly the same.
     
  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    No. In a closed container, hot water weighs exactly the same as cold water does. If you remove some water (via evaporation, or draining some) then it weighs less. Nothing magic.

    No, that is adding mass, not energy. They are not the same thing.

    Not on the scales we are talking about, no.

    Wow, you are confused. Don't know where to start with this one.

    Whether you remain that way, or choose to improve yourself, is up to you.
     
  19. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Incorrect.
    Exactly backwards.
    Again incorrect.
    Yes! By definition.
    Gibberish.
     
  20. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    I do not say Energy = pressure, i said +E or -E to the atmosphere equals more or less pressure on the surface. More or less newtons of force.
     
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    In a closed container there is no acting external pressure by the atmosphere?
     
  22. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    You are saying on a hot sunny day when the atmospheric pressure is high , that there is more pressure on the surface?
     
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    My question is if the newtons of force are changed by air pressure of air, is this not a change in mass?

    I must have crossed wires or something.

    If air has mass, and F=ma, and air has a newton weight , but air can rise opposed to gravity, meaning minus force of gravity, -F=ma of G, becoming less newtons , that must mean less mass when the energy is added to air?
     
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