E=mc2 questions?

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  1. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Technically speaking, it's in the right sub-forum *shrug* There are no forum rules against not understanding science after all
     
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    No, it really isn't. I remember from junior high, doing an experiment measuring the temperature of water (ice water?) in a styrofoam cup. Unfortunately, I don't remember the details of the experiment, but it must have been similar to what we are discussing here. I do remember details of several much more complicated experiments.

    This really is kiddie stuff.
    Gibberish. And irrelevant gibberish, too. Having done such experiments before, I know exactly what happens and exactly why. All your handwaving of other effects is bunk: such effects never show up. Water in a closed, insulated container stays at room temperature because there is no energy transfer in or out of the container. It's that simple.

    More to the point, since you are the one claiming there are other phenomena at work, it is incumbent upon you to provide an experiment that can isolate and test the effect. Otherwise, it is just meaningless handwaving: a phenomena that can't ever be detected under any circumstances can't be claimed to exist.
    Have two or three "thinks".

    [questions on water in a vacuum already answered by origin]
    The thermos bottle is sitting on my desk. It is not in motion.
    There is no water vapor here.
    Yes, it is: and a roller coaster's motion directly contradicts your claims because it obeys conservation of energy.
    Indeed it is: which is, again, why your idea is false. What you suggested, if correct, would be perpetual motion.
     
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    What I suggested if correct would not be perpetual motion, the motion is always stopped when mass makes contact with mass, and a perpetual pressure is what I would call gravity of an object on the ground acting upon the ground.
    P.s still considering an experiment.
    using pressure definition -
    1. Pressure (symbol: p or P) is the ratio of force to the area over which that force is distributed. Pressure is force per unit area applied in a direction perpendicular to the surface of an object.
    Can we say an object on the ground is under centripetal pressure?

    Gravity is not centripetal? all mass is attracted to mass so two masses will attract to each other which has nothing to do with central?
     
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    Well good for you, you figured out that a 1 kg mass would exert a constant 2.2 pounds of force on the earth.
    There is no way you could possibly make any sort viable experiment.
     
  9. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    I could reverse the thinking of the experiment, and add energy to an object and make it lighter in weight maybe showing the same thing?

    Example - I could add energy to air and see if the air rises
     
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    Wow, within minutes you have proven you could not make anything remotely close to a viable experiment. Incredible.
     
  11. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    It will take a while to get an experimental procedure correct and accurate to the test.
    You passed off what I just said without even considering, each and every action has an equal and opposite reaction, so if I am saying energy loss from mass to gravity, the opposite action would be energy gain and opposed to gravity, lighter than, when with less energy relative to gravity.
     
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    How much pressure does air oppose on the Earth?

    Does air when energy added decrease in this pressure?

    Does the weather prove I am correct?

    And I should ask, does air have a weight in Newton's?

    ''The total weight of the atmosphere exerts a pressure of about 14.7 pounds per square inch at sea level. You don't notice this weight, however, because you are used to it. If you live in Denver, Colorado, which is at an elevation of about 5,000 feet, then about 85% of the atmosphere is above you, resulting in an air pressure of about 12.5 pounds per square inch. At the top of Mount Everest (over 29,000 feet), only 30% of the atmosphere lies above you, leaving an air pressure of only 4.4 pounds per square inch. ''

    Gravity is the cause yes?
     
  13. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    Jesus christ, just shut up, you sound like a blithering idiot. It's terribly embarassing.

    Goodbye, I can't stand it.
     
  14. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    If they have question marks then I obviously do not know the answer or want to double check my understanding of the answer, and if the answers are yes to my questions then this shows what i am saying about energy loss to gravity from mass to be true.
     
  15. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    Your safest bet is to assume that the correct answer to every question you ask is the opposite of what you think the answer is. Likewise assume every statement you make is wrong.

    Do have alzheimers? You asked essentially the same questions about air before and you rejected the answers provided and decided that a hot air balloon floated due to anti-gravity.

    Yes air has weight in Newtons, pounds, ounces, dynes, stones, tons, grains, etc.
     
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    14.7 pounds per square inch.
    No. If you heated up the whole atmosphere, the pressure would not change. You'd still have 14.7 pounds of air above every square inch of sea level earth. Adding heat does not change mass we are discussing.
    Nope.
    No. Newtons are units of force; pounds/kilograms are units of weight.
    Gravity causes weight here on Earth, yes.
     
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    That just means that you don't know what "perpetual motion" means. Specifically, this would be a Type 1 perpetual motion machine in that it violates the first law of thermodynamics (conservation of energy):
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion#Classification
    There's no such thing, so no.
     
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    Why? No one except TC is under the impression that there is good science going on here and he was already informed of that by virtue of the fact that the thread was moved here.
     
  21. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    Pounds and Kilograms are mass not weight ask the other members on here they will explain it to you.
     
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    No such thing has centripetal pressure, I have to say it you are wrong. An object incurs a pressure on the surface, this is made by the action of gravity making a centripetal force on the object, centripetal pressure is the action of gravity always acting upon mass. 1 kg equals a constant 2.2lbs of pressure.
     
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