Dutch fear violence over provocative Islam film

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  1. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    In a sense, it is. There's no particular religious test on theology. It's intended to be a refuge for Jews who have historically suffered oppression.
     
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  3. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    :bugeye: I never implied you questioned the age of the book.

    You questioned the contents based on the age of the book. Yes or No ?
     
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  5. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    So what? The history of mankind is the story of people that moved to a land where other people already were. Europe was occupied by Neaderthals before modern humans got there.
     
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  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Nope. I questioned the formation of the state and ASKED him if the laws of Israel are based on the laws of Judaism.

    Is the Jewish only Law of Return based on exclusive Jewish access to Israel?
     
  8. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    That does not tell me why an American, European or Russian born Jew has rights that a native born Palestinian does not.
     
  9. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Look SAM, you said this:
    So why did you mention the books age ??
     
  10. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Enmos:

    Can you answer this?

    So why don't the Dutch have the same attitude towards freedom of expression of Holocaust denial or freedom of expression of Nazi attitudes among the Dutch people?
     
  11. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    No.. I'm still waiting for your answer..
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Because the state was formed on the basis of the religious text. The age just goes to show the distance between the Jews who wrote the text and the Jews who were given the state
     
  13. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Because letting in Arabs that call themselves Palestinians would end the secular Democracy that is Israel. If the Jews are religiously biased, then the Arab Muslims are doubly so. I think this aspect of Israel's laws are based on Judaism, but for the most part, Israel is not a theocracy.
     
  14. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    What about Christians, Parsis, Hindus, Muslims from India, Sikhs etc?

    Can they claim rights to land in Israel?

    And how is a state based on military occupation of a native people that discriminates against them a democracy?
     
  15. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    And why is that distance important ? How many things in Islamic countries are based on the Koran ?
     
  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Very few actually, most are based on Fiqh which is upto the civil government.

    The distance is important because a native people have been discriminated against due to something written 5000 years ago.
     
  17. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    They can try. Few Jews I know would claim that the OT gives them the right to Israel. They would explain that their origins are in Israel, that there has been a population there since the 1800s, that WWII gave them the need for their own state, that the Arabs wouldn't let them rule themselves, that Muslim violence finally forced them to seek independence.
     
  18. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Now can you answer this?
     
  19. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    That is simply not true..

    How does this not apply to the Koran ? Non-Muslims are discriminated against by Muslims, and that is in the Koran...
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    A 7% population in 1920 gives them the right to form a state while occupying land and making it available to all Jews globally at the expense of the natives?
     
  21. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Compared to what exactly ?
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Nope that is a fiction spread by Islamophobes.

    Islam believes all world religions to be from the same God.

    Islam does not claim to be a new or unique religion.
     
  23. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Why compare to anything?

    Why is there no freedom of expression of Holocaust denial? Why is there censorship of films in Holland that show the Nazi attitudes prevalent among the Dutch?
     

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