Dr Watson's views on race seem very sensible.

Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by Lord Hillyer, Oct 21, 2007.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    23,053
    We were talking about the tests and studies done in the 50s, 60s and 70s, Sam .....or are you now backing out of your initial argument? ....as you always do!! ...LOL!

    Baron Max
     
  2. Google AdSense Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    72,822
    Where do you think Watson gets his notions?

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

     
  4. Google AdSense Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  5. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    23,053
    Well, Sam, it was valid research at the time, and it's still valid research. Nothing, no research of any kind, has shown it to be incorrect or invalid.

    Or do you think research should be controlled by liberal doo-gooders who don't want anything bad to be shown about anyone or anything?

    Baron Max
     
  6. Google AdSense Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    72,822
    Hmm no it should be handed over to the KKK and nazis.

    The research is valid, but do you know what it says?
     
  8. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    23,053
    Research should be for anyone who can use it. Or would you prefer to dispense it ONLY to the "proper" people???

    It's consistently shown, test after test, conditions after conditions, in many different settings, that blacks are less intelligent than whites. In none of the test in the past did blacks ever score equal to or higher than whites. And that's why "they" shut down that testing ....because they're afraid to face the truths of the studies ....they prefer lies and false truths.

    Baron Max
     
  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    72,822
    Hmm see? Even you don't know that the variance within group is much greater. Which means that there are a lot of blacks who are much smarter than whites.
     
  10. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    23,053
    I can't post the truth any more, Sam, when I do, you give me infrations!!

    So, see, he with the most powerful weapon wins that arguments. Just like in real life, huh, Sam? Proof positive that negotiations or diplomacy or talks never work.

    Baron Max
     
  11. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    72,822
    So you see how you have to be very careful when you assess the results of research. Assumptions are not facts.
     
  12. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    23,053
    Yes, Ma'am, whatever you say! I agree with anything and everything that you say ....or ever will say. With the power of assess punishment, you're the boss, Sam.

    Baron Max
     
  13. superluminal . Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    10,717
    Supergeniuses! You know. The ones who really run everything.
     
  14. superluminal . Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    10,717
    And vice versa, of course.
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    72,822
    So you no longer ascribe to scientific consensus then?
     
  16. superluminal . Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    10,717
    Nope. I only listen to the supergeniuses now. And only I can hear them.
     
  17. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    51,741
    There is an inherent flaw in tests designed to obtain an objective measure of intelligence. There isn't one. To think that the genome has a part to play in intelligence is probably true, but the variations even in subjective and flawed measures of intelligence are greater between individuals, than between the average of the races. Even knowing what race you are is not an objective measure of race. People often have mixed race marriages in their family tree and don't even know it. The races have been mixing genes for tens of thousands of years. The percieved steadiness of racial characteristics is probably due to culturally driven sexual selection, since natural selection cannot explain it, and the genes don't reflect it uniformly.
     
  18. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    72,822
    Spidey:

    I want to give you a cookie but we only practice negative reinforcement

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

     
  19. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

    Messages:
    24,066
    What race is this watson?
     
  20. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    23,053
    Interesting that you say that, then say:

    So, ....what is this? You don't believe in intell tests to measure intelligence, yet you DO believe in intell tests to show that the measure of intelligence is greater between individuals than between the average of the races?

    What? So you only believe tests that prove what you believe? ...LOL!

    It's really interesting to me that y'all are perfectly willing to believe in the differences between races, like color of skin, nose shape, kinky hair, etc, yet you absolutely refuse to believe any differences in intelligence. Why? Religious belief?

    Baron Max
     
  21. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    72,822
    notice the words "objective" and "subjective and flawed"
     
  22. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    23,053
    Nope, Sam, that don't make no damned difference. He believes the testing when it shows what he wants, but he doesn't believe the testing which shows what he doesn't believe. Simple as that.

    Try reading it again, Sam.

    And why no comment on this: It's really interesting to me that y'all are perfectly willing to believe in the differences between races, like color of skin, nose shape, kinky hair, etc, yet you absolutely refuse to believe any differences in intelligence. Why? Religious belief?


    Baron Max
     
  23. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    72,822
    Think about it a little more and it may come to you.

    hint: variation within group in kinky hair vs variation between group
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page