Dose God HATE the disabled?

Discussion in 'Comparative Religion' started by Darth Behemoth, Apr 1, 2013.

  1. arauca Banned Banned

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    He did not bring the sword, we human because we don't follow his teaching use the sword among our selves . He said to Peter put away your sword , " man who use the sword will fall by the sword "
     
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  3. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Matthew 10:

    Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’ He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.
     
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  5. arauca Banned Banned

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    Boy you are like the devil you know the scripture which is great. Anyway you know that at that time , Jews were conservative and Him bringing a new teaching will bring discord in family , because of the discord there will be confrontation . He was looking for loyalty , Is it not that that revolutionary movement requires ?
     
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  7. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    It's great and it makes you like the devil . . .

    If I didn't know it I'd be like an angel but that would be terrible?

    Yep. Like he said, he was bringing a sword. And as history has borne out it wasn't limited to the family.
     
  8. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    It doesn't change the fact that Jesus was more of a soft sell than the Old Testament.
     
  9. arauca Banned Banned

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    About the devil I was yoking.
    Do you think Jesus would agree with the crusades, pogroms and holocaust . I don;t think so. Man causes evil to man and uses any excuses to do it. The way as I see the intellectual man uses the masses in the name of God to do his objective . Is the same way I don't agree in the time of Moses like ,God send the Israelite "go and kill the Canaanite or others " That is man's writing , but because it is in the bible therefore it must be from god, I don't alone with this .
     
  10. arauca Banned Banned

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    I agree with you, as for me I take what is written in Mathew chapter 5, 6 , 7. as basis for his teaching.
     
  11. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    It doesn't help while arguing to call people names.
    Anyone can do that.
    You must know that.
    It brings things down to a very low form of argument.

    Added later.
    I see from your later post that you were joking about calling someone a devil.
    Good. I was surprised to see you apparently do that.

    Metaphors are either misunderstood, or arouse antagonism.
    I like making them but try to avoid them.

    I can count the number of times that using a metaphor
    has brought someone round to my point of view
    on the fingers of no hands.

    As a method of arguing, it is useless,
    as Jesus would have realised had he read this thread.
     
  12. Darth Behemoth Registered Member

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    I want to make some point.

    First off, the use of the word "crippled", is a derisive term for people that are physically disabled. It is equally offensive as the "F" word for homosexuals, "N" word for African-Americans or other derisive terms. The proper term is "Person with a physical disability". This term acknowledges that: 1. They are PEOPLE first, and their entirety of their being is not derfined by their disabiliity, 2. it is not a statement of judgemnt as the term "cripple" is on ther physical fitness of a person. For instance, is a person in a wheelchair more contemptible, more to be pitied than a person not in a wheelchair? The fact that a famous physicist who uses a wheelchair is a confirmable genius, shows that while he is physically disabled, his mind is not. In fact, he could rightfully term people that are NOT geniuses as "Mentally challenged", and may look down upon you, seeing you as mentally "crippled" as less intelligent than he is. Would you like to be judged on one aspect of your personality, and seen only in that light? I don't think so.

    Jesus was probably mentally mentally ill. Still, his delusions did not impair his ability to forge a following. People will deny this, because it would imply that God is mentally ill too, since God is the same as Jesus. The implication would be that God is in fact a disabled person, and the non-disabled people coul with that fact.
     
  13. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    He had 12 followers. I think more people followed Charles Manson.
     
  14. arauca Banned Banned

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    I called him boy in a friendly way sense we have a contact pretty often . and so was calling devil that was a yoke . This fellow have quiet many good point in science and in general I respect him.
     
  15. arauca Banned Banned

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    Why do you knock your own kind , He was a Jidishe mench. You should be proud of Him His teaching was embraced first by Greeks , by Armenian and then by the Roman empire, If the conservatives would accept His teaching The Jews would not have to be scattered over the whole world , because of hard headed , Jerusalem was destroyed by Titus in 65 AD and later by Adrian forbid Jews live in Palestine , and so here you are a wondering Jew in America. Be poud of Him he is our own kind .
     
  16. arauca Banned Banned

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    Se who is mentally ill , Check your paragraph 1 and compare it to paragraph 2 That tells me you have some mental problem .
     
  17. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    You were yoking, alright. Yoking with the devil.

    Maybe this isn't an unequal yoking after all!
     
  18. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    These are just words, which are just noises/sounds humans can make. The words of language come from the left brain. They do not have magical power, unless your belief system gives them power over you. Jesus would call these various PC noises, the false gods of liberalism. If the collective follows these false gods and you do not, who is assumed crazy?

    This is where a brain side analysis is useful.

    I would guess this compulsive affect comes from right brain people, with marginal control over the left brain. The left brain would become more unconscious and compulsive, which explains why linear noise/words, which are generated by the left brain, can spook them into emotional irrationality.

    If they were too right brained, they would have little control over reason and analytical skills to see how this programming is predictable and subject to willpower; sticks and stones. This entire trend should be considered a religion, since it makes use of the same brain side sequences found in all other religions (objective standard of religion based on brain side proportions). Separation of church and state should apply, but since dual standard is the nature of liberalism (satan the binarius), one can't apply left brain logic to this religion and reach these people. It is all about right brain feelings.

    In religion, there are sacred words like God which induce awe or words like Devil that induce fear. The liberal word game is another religion that atheism should be against. However, atheism could be lured into this religion, since if atheism is left brain, then their right brain is unconscious and will become compulsive. The emotional appeal of these word gods would allow one an opportunity to express the unconscious right side. However, this is not a constructive religion that is spatially integrated since it needs force. If you resist this word religion, it will attempt to use secular force to beat you into group compliance, so all are equally crazy. At least right brained Christianity allows one to come and go and does not have to resort to force compliance.
     
  19. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    It sounds like you only used 1/2 of your brain to write this.
     
  20. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    People don't like being summed up by one disparaging word which defines them by their disability.
    So, calling someone a spastic, a cripple, a mongol, a cretin, a dwarf, a dummy, a nutter, etc. is abusive.
    There isn't "a disabled", only "a disabled person".
    But there is still the term "the disabled"
    Why isn't "the disabled" presently offensive?

    Rather than discuss the matter on this thread, I'll repeat this post on Linguistics. See
    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread...d-other-offensive-terms&p=3058042#post3058042

    @Darth
    Crippled has not crossed my personal radar as offensive, though cripple has.
    From a quick check on google, current usages are crippled supply lines, roads etc, and seldom crippled people.
    So you are probably correct, Darth.


    Words are not just noises.
    Words are what make us human.
     
    Last edited: Apr 5, 2013
  21. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Being the only bastard son of the Mary/Joseph family probably explains Jesus' obsessive "Father" complex. There's something seriously wrong with a young man who instead of finding a job and starting a family wanders around homeless preaching about how HE (the lone SON of God) is going to descend from heaven someday to set up his kingdom on earth. Nowadays people can be medicated for claiming far less.
     
  22. mathman Valued Senior Member

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    We really don't know what Jesus thought about himself. The gospels were written more than 40 years after his death, reflecting what Christians believed at that time.
     
  23. Darth Behemoth Registered Member

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    Are mentally ill people more spiritual?


    What implications would follow if Jesus indeed was mentally ill? What would that say about God, if it is true that Jesus represents God? Would that mean GOD is mentally ill? Could it infer that only mentally ill people are given to visions of God, that "normal" only could hope to? Might it be that the crest of humanity is less spiritual than mentally ill people.
     

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