Doing the Numbers on No. 1

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience' started by nebel, Apr 30, 2018.

  1. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    I am afraid that nebel is impervious to reason.
     
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  3. nebel Valued Senior Member

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    instead of discussing (glad there is no cussing) the messenger, tackle the message. it is tens all the way down,young man.
     
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  5. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    If the message is defective it behoves us to tackle the defective messenger

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  7. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    No doubt the moles consider their hills more important than the mountains.
     
  8. nebel Valued Senior Member

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    It is an old strategy, if the message is inconvenient, perceived as defective, decapitate the messenger. Or at least try to depict her/him as deficient. empty headed. Inviting a hydra response.
    I am not implying a significance to the numbers as conspiracy theorists might construct, but they are there. and herewith staying power.
     
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  9. nebel Valued Senior Member

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    indeed, moles live in tunnels, they never see the mountains., normally even their own piles against the blue sky. Sherpas and moles are about as far apart as you can get in look back time, horizon.
     
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  10. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    The punchline is that you're the mole.
     
  11. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    THERE IS NO MESSAGE

    If there IS a message you have not said (delivered) it

    All you have are vague happenstances

    You can get those in any newspaper generllge under a heading something like Your Stars for the Day

    You appear to be looking up Uranus to find something mystic

    It's a planet not a crystal ball and both are as relevant to each other as your supposed groupings of 10

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  12. nebel Valued Senior Member

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    Check your posts, you posted it. Tunnel vision at it's best. your arguments are already buried.
    I am with the 1o, the No.1, you are the mole sitting in your hole.
    The 10s are not going away, mole piles? hollow.
     
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  13. nebel Valued Senior Member

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    that is all that counts.
    Your trying to equate science data with astrology is showing how desperate you are to undo or discredit the 10s. .
     
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  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    You are putting the fault on the wrong party here.
    1. You have presented your case.
    2. We have shown that the argument is logically flawed: because you are
      a. cherry-picking data to suit your idea, and
      b. warping that data to make it fit, by using arbitrary units, and employing arbitrary margins of error, and assigning arbitrary significance to the result.
    3. You have presented no further argument, and you are simply repeatedly insisting your original argument has merit. That too is a logical flaw (argument by repetition.)
    It is not that people are razzing you just to be mean, it is that you are demonstrating an unwillingness or an inability to know when a poorly-constructed assertion has been refuted.

    The last relevant point that was on-topic was our dismantling of your idea. The discussion has no where else to go. What you are doing is simply hoping to lay down the last word, as if that will keep the discussion going. And that's why people are now targeting you, because you have become the source of the problem).


    That's not how science is done. One critical component of the scientific method is knowing when an idea is not bearing fruit, and it's time to let go.
     
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  15. nebel Valued Senior Member

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    a) Of course the compilation contains only data that are relevant. Why would I pick apples when I am looking for cherries?
    b) units that are universally recognized, Light Seconds. AU, km/s, "c". Bode, Of course, applying a certain system will have a pattern clearly emerge. try to doing math in Roman notation. The finest science has been done by employing specialized relevant notations.
    That was no refutation of arguments at all, perhaps really vindicating them instead.
    Of course I rested my case, The numbers stand. but am glad to match wits against determined nay sayers.
     
  16. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    Of which you have none

    The last thing anyone here wants is for you to try and match anything else

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  17. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Nebel, you clearly understand the error, and you also clearly believe that, as long as you keep talking, you think you're getting positive attention - as witnessed by your post count (where you make giant threads of only you talking). You will then take this back to your Facebook page and claim "Look how much interest I'm generating! Hundreds of posts and views!" Just as you have done here, by claiming people are following you on Facebook.

    This is a purely self-serving exercise for you. For this reason, your credibility has dropped to the level of troll (a troll seeks any attention, even negative attention).

    And thus you go on the ignore list.

    Pity. You're not a bad guy, but your motives are destructive.
     
  18. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    Universally recognized? Really?

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    And yes, you can join the others on my ignore list.
     
  19. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    Any significant meaning to 3 in a row?

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  20. nebel Valued Senior Member

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    and I thought the nasa/ astronomy charts charts that I was drawing from were science based.


    Any significant meaning to 3 in a row?
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    It depends. if it is 3 mole piles in a row, it means there is likely a tunnel connecting them. If there is three positions corresponding to a sequence linked to "c" value it is worth keeping it in memory. If there are 9 in a row, in multiples, and one of them just happens to be very close to your favoured counting aid, there might be a future surprise in store for you.

    That is a measure of last resort. When everything else failed. happened to a hero of mine, J. Kepler.
     
  21. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    That's his own private Universe

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  22. nebel Valued Senior Member

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    well, they are in the metric system. Mp/h, feet/sec, stones, pounds, ounces are recognized too, in some places.
    When we get more and finer exoplanet data, we will see whether these ratios , round numbers (in any system) will jump up to our attention, out of the nebel of data.

    Imagine the scenario (unlikely) we discovered that using "c" we come to round numbers in an exoplanet system. would be be amiss making connections to the ones we see here in No. 1?
    unlikely because nature turns out to fashion often the most divergent from identical laws, structures.
     
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  23. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Just about everybody on this thread has pointed out your tunnel vision.
     

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