Does time exist?

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  1. Michael 345 Bali in Nov closer Valued Senior Member

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    Nooooo

    So called time, singular, is called NOW

    NOW has no thickness but can be considered to be a non existent divide where PAST butts up against FUTURE

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  3. TheFrogger Registered Senior Member

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    But the future is occuring now. It's called will. Should you make a decision to do something in the future, the consequences will occur now. The DECISION to drink alcohol (the simple act of walking to the shop) can create vomit. ☺
     
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  5. Michael 345 Bali in Nov closer Valued Senior Member

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    But the future is occuring now

    Nooooo

    At NOW, as mentioned has no thickness, butts up to FUTURE

    FUTURE does not occur until NOW has gone

    Should you make a decision to do something in the future, the consequences will occur now

    Nooooo

    It will occur in the future, if at all, because when made it is only a potential

    If if if it occurs it would be a ANOTHER arbitrary NOW butting up a different future in the NOW it has arrived at

    No idea what you are talking about in the parts I did not comment on

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  7. Asexperia Registered Senior Member

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    There is one moment at a time. It is the present, now. The continuous succession of irreversible moments is time.
    A single moment does not make time. Duration is the interval between two moments in time.
    Duration is magnitive.
     
  8. river

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    What do mean that , " duration is magnative " ?
     
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  9. Asexperia Registered Senior Member

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    Duration is magnitive because is objective, imperceptible
    and measurable.
     
  10. river

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    " Duration is magnitive because it is objective " . Explain deeper , otherwise this makes no sense .

    Hmm.. how can being " imperceptible " but at the same time be measurable ?
     
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  11. Asexperia Registered Senior Member

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    From post #1505:

    PROVING THAT DURATION IS MAGNITIVE

    1- Think of an hourglass.

    2- The fall of the grains of sand is becoming, which is perceptible.

    3- Between the beginning and the end of the sand fall there is a time interval. This interval is objective, but imperceptible because we only see one moment at a time. Duration is composed of non-coexistent moments.

    4- We can use the movement of the sand as a unit of measurement because it is periodic and with uniform velocity.

    5- We can also use a chronometer to determine the duration of the clock.

    6- In 4 and 5 we notice that we can use patterns to quantify time.

    7- Therefore, duration is magnitive, that is, objective, imperceptible and measurable.
     
  12. river

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    No

    Duration is the flow of movement , not measured or quantified .
     
  13. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    a life time of emotions in a single thought
     
  14. river

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    Disagree

    Each emotion is a seprate experience , hence several thoughts
     
  15. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dura#English

    Tecnically it is more like the essence of the other as an outside to the self.
    so the tion or ation(depending on which century) would be process of the outside self of other.

    dura (the other or third person, the not the self, the un-self) process(tion), movement

    movement is probably more so an association rather than a discription.

    our essence of movement is more a translational aspect of the process
    like the word "motor"

    "flow" would be quite similar though emotional association trends to quantify a volumetric reference

    the movement can not flow
    the flow IS the movement.
    does the movement have flow ? that is an intrinsicly different question based on a supposition of agreed meaning.
    thus a directional aspect of nature is already accepted.

    is the type of flow duration ?
    yes
    how can that be ?
    because time is the factor. not movement.
     
  16. river

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    Disagree

    If time is the factor , explain how time does this ?
     
  17. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    emotions are never seperate.

    bi-polar disorder defines emotions as seperate.
    all emotions are always attached to other emotions.
    the lie that many tell themselves is that the emotion has validity un to its self.
    this is a modern day aspect of philisophical construct of the mind.

    to give you some type of reference point
    imagine the old world church and their beleifs about medicine bleeding people etc etc
    now imagine modern day medicine.
    now imagine conceptualising yourself as a religous person based on the scientific fact of the medical knowledge as being your association to religous factualism.
     
  18. river

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    And each has a seperate emotion based on experience
     
  19. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    "each" what ?

    p.s bi-polar disorder normalisation of behavioural normalcy
    "i am"
    ... the mother, the housekeep, the nanny, the chef, the boss, the the the the ...
    the female aspect is easier to define as females are more aware of change on a lower intellectual level.

    everything is a jump to a position of self definition.
    devoid of associated emotional relationships.
    men tend not to suffer from this soo much in the past as their emotional self has been beaten out of them as a child.

    if there is no identification of the self, does time exist as a relationship to others ?

    p.p.s you will notice the modern day movement of agrevied white middle class males, this is the backwash of the emotional being that is waking up after being beaten down physically and emotionally for decades as a child.
    they dont know what they are or what they want, but they know something is missing.
    so they blame external materialism for an emotional cultural brain washing.
     
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  20. river

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    Are they not within themselves , hence time is irrelevant ?
     
  21. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    the subtle shift in your question is a supposition.
    your assertion is problematic because you narrow the field of possible answers into an "expectation"
    that expectation can be delivered to you every time, and you will learn nothing new.
    are you still considering that a process of learning ?

    is time passing as this happens ? (no?)
    if time is measured by nature of expereince, is new time new expereince ?
     
  22. river

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    Actually I don't , I just guessed .

    Just get to the point
     
  23. Michael 345 Bali in Nov closer Valued Senior Member

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    Duration is

    du·ra·tion
    \du̇-ˈrā-shənalsodyu̇-\
    noun
    • :the length of time that something exists or lasts
    Mirriam-Webster

    Or another term its AGE which measures, by using arbitrary units of time, from one arbitrary moment to another arbitrary moment

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