Does Time ever run backwards: Perhaps.

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by paddoboy, Sep 3, 2015.

  1. BrianHarwarespecialist We shall Ionize!i Registered Senior Member

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    It's so clear and beautiful as we get right up close to a blind spot and witness it as a singularity but how can space expand and still appear static? What direction are we looking at...hmm at the speed of c electricity and magnetism is united and cross at 90 degrees deeper investigation to this concept would seem to have more secrets kept in the dark so to speak.
     
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  3. Oystein Registered Senior Member

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  5. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    It no longer makes my head hurt (although it once did), ever since I gave up on Minkowski's useless complex Pythagorean Euclidean solid ideas about relating time and space through invariant intervals, and also his light cones. Simultaneity only applies to events that are the same event viewed from different angles, or else they are entangled events. There is only time and energy. bound energy and two quantum fields. Time is much finer grained than relativity's description of time related to energy propagation, and as a result, both entanglement and time require descriptions that exceed the bounds of relativity theory.

    Try thinking about it like that, paddo. Your head will stop hurting. Time cannot reverse, inside or outside of a BH, any more than energy or matter can exceed propagation speeds greater than c in a vacuum. Entanglement works >> 10,000 times faster than c. To reverse time, one must also reverse entanglement. It is a fact that relativity provides no description of anything capable of describing the actual mathematics of a reversal of time. If it did, it would need to predict the speed of entanglement, and it doesn't.

    Why take everything that was said or submitted at the recent high level conference on Black Holes as if it were gospel? Hawking himself has been wrong about BH phenomena on more than one occasion, lost and paid bets on the subject. People like Hawking only bet on such things because it is unlikely a wager on such things will be resolved any time soon. I have noticed, Hawking limits his wagers to $100 or less. Big deal. It's not as though his career rides on any of those wagers. It doesn't.
     
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  7. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    They are all the directions energy or matter may propagate, and light travel time IS length, no matter whichever direction you choose to propagate yourself. There isn't even a need to relate space to time, because space IS time. The rotation in 3D is just a trick propagating energy can easily do. No Pythagorean theorem, complex numbers, or Minkowski is required to describe this. Both time and entanglement exceed the relativistic boundaries Minkowski arbitrarily decided to set as if it were a Euclidean solid. It isn't.

    Down in Australia is the direction of Up in the United States.
     
  8. BrianHarwarespecialist We shall Ionize!i Registered Senior Member

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    Yes space is time. Just a question, as well as a thought experiment to you Danshawen, extend the directions of energy to infinity where will it end?

    It's a very interesting question and I believe there is a really simple answer.
     
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  9. BrianHarwarespecialist We shall Ionize!i Registered Senior Member

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    Consider Lorentz contraction when you squeeze matter
    Time expands (slows down) why do you suppose? You see the connection don't you? Space, space-time revealing matter curving space...
     
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  10. BrianHarwarespecialist We shall Ionize!i Registered Senior Member

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    See now matter and time seems to have a relationship. Believe me I suspect there are deeper applications to this.
     
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  11. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    It's a Doppler shift. This is also the process allows kinetic energy stored in matter to increase without limit. Bound energy is not much different from unbound energy in that respect. The spaces between particles may also contract, and matter (bound energy) is mostly empty space anyway.
     
  12. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    Matter is bound energy that for the most part does not decay or dissipate with time. A process that is faster than light is needed in order for it to do this, and that process is entanglement.
     
  13. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    Infinite length (separation) and zero length or separation are the same for particles that are entangled. Relativity makes this relation easy to understand. It is more complex than we currently understand only because the science of interaction the quantum fields is only beginning.
     
  14. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    I'm assuming, someone will let me know when this becomes inconsistent, or if it makes their heads hurt, which amounts to the same thing.
     
  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I'll stick to my head hurting thank you very much, as I'm probably not as smart as you and I'm also a self confessed [although certainly not ashamed] lay person.
    Time slows as one approaches "รง" from an outside FoR. what does it do when "c 'is surpassed?
    The same applies to BH's once the EH is breached.
    I have a choice...To listen to recognised experts, or listen to delusional nuts that have infested this forum with claims that GR is wrong, or that they will rewrite 21st century cosmology, or that they have a TOE.
    The choice is easy for me. To use an expression I am fond of, I stand on the shoulders of giants, that have stood on the shoulders of giants before them.
    Like Hawking, like Einstein, I am not afraid to be wrong and have enough gumption to admit that.
    What irks me most of all about all our great maverick alternative hypothesis pushers [eg just to mention a couple in Farsight and rajesh] is that all lack any humility that the great man had.
    Their huge blind spot is their delusional state of mind that they hold themselves above the giants I spoke of, yet they haunt and frequent every day science forums such as this. No wonder Prof Link Bennett gave it up after only a week.
    They of course also have far more to do in advancing our knowledge.
    I'm really sorry you are unable to see that, as sometimes, imho, you do seem half reasonable.
     
  16. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Matter and energy are emergent properties of space and time [spacetime]
    There was a time when matter was unable to exist due to incredibly hot conditions.
    https://einstein.stanford.edu/content/relativity/a11332.html
    Experiments continue to show that there is no 'space' that stands apart from space-time itself...no arena in which matter, energy and gravity operate which is not affected by matter, energy and gravity. General relativity tells us that what we call space is just another feature of the gravitational field of the universe, so space and space-time can and do exist apart from the matter and energy that creates the gravitational field. This is not speculation, but sound observation.
     
  17. BrianHarwarespecialist We shall Ionize!i Registered Senior Member

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    But to squeeze matter you must excelerate it
    Good reply so you see what I mean then when technically a particle or field is restraint from moving past a certain speed but it still appears to be the case with information tranfer of entangled particles. If length contraction happens to matter excellerated in a vacuum then what force is pushing back on matter to squeeze it?
     
  18. BrianHarwarespecialist We shall Ionize!i Registered Senior Member

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    After an infinite line-up of phase complications in the end simplicity becomes singular.
     
  19. The God Valued Senior Member

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    You guys seem to be over influenced by Newton's apple. There is nothing up or down as far as Gravity is concerned, in the Newtonian Context Gravity is in the direction of line joining the center of mass of two bodies.
     
  20. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Gravity denotes the direction down....pretty simple stuff.
    Or Down is the direction of the overwhelming force of gravity.
     
  21. BrianHarwarespecialist We shall Ionize!i Registered Senior Member

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    And that direction is down... I never mentioned up
     
  22. BrianHarwarespecialist We shall Ionize!i Registered Senior Member

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    There is obviously a lot I am not saying holding back for obvious reasons; To limit my speculations that I have not yet coupled with empirical evidence.
     
  23. BrianHarwarespecialist We shall Ionize!i Registered Senior Member

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    What direction is the center of mass located?
     

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