Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by wegs, Aug 13, 2019.
Unplanned does not equate to unwanted...
Log in or Sign up to hide all adverts.
if your god is a man
how can he know what its like to be a woman and ultimately create a woman ?
if god had a gender it would be more likely to be male than female
assuming god is not a bisexual hermaphrodite
sexuality reveal party ?
my question is at the end of a debate
the debate i have not posted
the scientific reality is the fact
the human ability to control ones own emotions & how they treat others is the core
the value of human life is the core
the transference of self accountability over the suffering of life & human life to a god aspect to remove ones self accountability is the core
the hypocrisy of those who dictate morals on others yet oppose social security
universal health care
placing the "fact" before the human life value
by defining a post deductive reason of ends dictates the means
thus abject morals over subject morals
"meaning" = suffering
the right to suffer
the right to watch others suffer
im shortening a rather in depth concept which most people simply leap frog like a zealot into & apply their indoctrinated bully morality of supremacy over others as a form of playing god
thus meaning of suffering
One could think if a small tribe all would get health care, housing and food..or a life boat would the food not be shared equally?
But then you see these monkeys in the hot springs excluding some tribe members from the comfort of the warm water...so funny humans in a small group can act better than monkeys ( well at least in a life boat) but up the numbers and we find tribe members starving without a home dieing from a health problem they can't pay someone to fix.
Anyways why should I care, I have my van and plenty of food and not dieing of something I can't afford to have fixed.
And so funny usually those looking for the meaning in life could not give a rat's about the needy...they only look for meaning because they have time on their hands and well fed etc. Rather than what is the meaning of life they could ask..can I help anyone?
What if there was no one who needed help in the world? Would life no longer have meaning?Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
As long was there is at least one man (person) and one telescope, life has meaning. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Does the possibility that life has no meaning, bother you?
Funny once that was my thing..I just loved helping people..I still do...however it is so nice not to feel needed..I mean you are only kidding yourself but one gets the feeling it will all colapse if you don't go into the office today..well back then it would...but the reason I survived and did it was never for me strangely..it was to give the staff jobs and good bonuses, to help the vendors, the buyers the tenants and the landlords. It was like a hobby and not about the money...but now...
Yes now it's all about me... I live like I want to full on...now a little money helps when you are talking telescopes and mounts and cameras... I figure on past numbers that each photo in the future is costing me around a grand... five good ones a year and maybe I have five years left at it...it is crazy really...but when I remember where I was as a kid and all I have done and now doing I am happy as I could be...I don't need meaning being the shallow character I am...saw a huge black snake earlier ..it's winter..I am more interested in what that means...and as frisky as mid summer snake..that is odd...don't mind a black so good it was not a brown..if it had been a brown I may not be here..nasty when frisky.
Life has no meaning unless you're very rich and you need to be very rich to become happy.
But the system is designed so that most truly hard-working people will never become billionaires so the system kind of wants to keep us slaves to money.
With that said, I think that life only has meaning if you're good-looking and very rich, otherwise you will never achieve most of your goals, dreams and aspirations and that means most people who are not rich or good-looking will never achieve most of their their hopes and dreams.
I think we live in a very “works based” culture where our accomplishments while they have value sure, become the sole measure of a person’s worth. But I’m of the opinion that finding meaning and purpose has little to do with output and one’s earning potential. For example, does a doctor who chooses to earn a low wage in a third world country find life to have less meaning because he/she isn't earning as much as a doctor in North America? I'd have to say the doctor in the third world country might find more value in their contribution to society, because they're less driven by money as the arbiter of success. This doesn't mean all doctors in NA are driven by money, but some are, and to that end, I don't consider them to be ''successful.''
If money is what drives you in life, you'll eventually realize that it will become your master in life. For all those who have lost their incomes and/or jobs during Covid19, I'm hopeful they aren't jumping off cliffs because suddenly...life has no meaning now that they're faced with financial adversity. Money is a necessary means of exchange to provide shelter, food, clothing, etc., but if it is the sole thing that drives you in life, it's going to be a depressing life, for money comes and goes.
How silly, self-pitying, defeatist and wrong. You've played this violin before. I think you should snap out of it.
It is commonly observed that people with very little, in poor countries, often seem happy with their lives. People finding meaning from all sorts of things. Very often it is connected to recognition by others in some way. In other words, a sense of something to be proud of. Lack of any recognition can undermine an individual's sense of identity and have the effect of making life seem pointless. But it has little or nothing to do with wealth or looks. That is a very shallow and materialistic view.
have you never met a work a holic who has made millions but cant stop working and doesnt really spend the excesses of what they earn ?
i have, several of them in different shapes and sizes.
some nice the occasional very distasteful
its not all that easily polarized
you cant simply swap power & control issues in place of money to equate the same human personality disposition toward what happiness is
i have met and chatted with a millionaire who likes to work in customer service
low to middle lower class income bracket
thats what makes them tick, they love it
they don't need to work, but that is what makes them happy.
Separate names with a comma.