does religion really matter in the 21th century?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by brenton, Aug 31, 2006.

  1. brenton Registered Member

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    this is a question to be answered from the heart.....
     
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  3. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    No religion matters.

    In the way back past it was good for making people feel bad about what they have done.

    Now religion, in my eyes, is a bad thing and no longer serves it's purpose.

    Plus, with the rise of PC language, we no longer have to worry about offending people.

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  5. The Devil Inside Banned Banned

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    depends on the individual, if it matters or not.
     
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    i didnt know that smurfs were making their houses out of concrete nowadays!
     
  9. c7ityi_ Registered Senior Member

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    Christianity will probably die in a few centuries.
    Later people will realize that all religions come from the same God.
    We will no longer need guidance and inflexible laws because we will find the living law inside ourself.
     
  10. Ogmios Must. learn. to. punctuate! Registered Senior Member

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    Religion as "a set doctorine of values, knowledge and point of view", no.

    But religions as "depositories of valuable old wisdom" yeah. Spirituality is on the rise, but religiousness is declining. But it might take a couple of wars to get rid of all the fanatics...
     
  11. Ted Grant II Registered Senior Member

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    It's important to learn about religions, especially in history, social science and politics.
    If you knew nothing about religion, then you wouldn't understand why people are willing to fly airplanes into buildings and strap bombs to their private parts.
     
  12. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Ted, stop resurrecting old threads. These people aren't around any more.
     
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  13. pluto2 Registered Senior Member

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    The way I see it secular extremism is equally a danger to society as religious extremism is.

    Secular extremism can also push humanity back into the dark ages and not only religious extremism.

    Religion is needed in order for a ethical society to sustain itself. Religion makes morality possible and morals are seriously lacking in secular extremism.
     
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  14. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    What's secular extremism? And no, religion is not what makes morality possible.
     
  15. pluto2 Registered Senior Member

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    Secular extremism is marginalizing religion and asserting that you can't be part of mainstream society without being secular.

    Also trying to ban religion by the government is another form of secular extremism, for example.

    And my source for this is:

    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.719124

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010...igion-james-lee-discovery-channel-mother.html

    Also don't forget that Hitler and Stalin were both atheists and they killed many people.
     
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  16. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    You have forgotten that you have been born into a Christian- Judeo- Islamic society
     
  17. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Didn't make us moral.

    Slavery.
     
  18. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    No one says that. All I want is separation of church and state. And secular humanism, which is hardly extreme, seeing as how doing good for humans is what it's all about.

    Also not happening.



    Hitler was not an atheist, and neither were most Germans. Stalin might have been, but the Catholic Church killed more people.
    Your assertion seems to be that being religious prevents murder, and I see no evidence of that.
    Religion has actual texts and tenets, atheism is merely the rejection of the god claim. It contains no teachings for doing either good or evil, so you can't blame it for anything else.
     
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  19. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Our gilt before God drives us to change our evil act . Does a an atheist can have a guilty conscience if he does act evil ? or does he rationalise only to justify his act ?
     
  20. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Obviously, the natural conscience comes first or you wouldn't care about anyone's judgement.
     
  21. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Too many theists commit evil, including priests & pastors, for that to have any validity.

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  22. Michael 345 Next mythical choc bunnies for mystic who died Valued Senior Member

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    A atheists who does a bad thing is a brown hole sphincter

    A theists who does a bad thing is a brown hole sphincter who believes in god

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  23. Thomas Cranmer Registered Member

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    We all need some kind of God, just like we need air.
     

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